Nobody? OK, here's another hint to the insane overreach #Bluesky are attempting.
Hint #2 comes from alternative history:
Back in 1974 technology pioneer Robert Metcalfe at Xerox PARC developed the Ethernet PROTOCOL upon which the internet is based. Astutely, Xerox Terms of Service included an irrevocable, non-exclusive, perpetual, transferable, worldwide, royalty-free license any data sent over the Ethernet protocol. Which is why Xerox now effectively co-owns everything.
What #Bluesky developers need to focus on: (and may be, I hope) actual Federation and adding clarity on how moderation, blocking, labeling really work. Dramatic upgrades needed and may be in the works.
What #Fediverse developers need to be doing: dramatically upping UX and onboarding. Good things in the works.
What #Indieweb and Fedi developers need to be doing: building software bridges between those two protocols & relays to handle AP-ATprotocol two way traffic at scale.
@tchambers#Bluesky should stop pretending to be a decentralized system. Then things like blocking will be easy and they don’t have to hide behind the excuse “we have to make your block list public because we’re decentralized.”
@Green_Footballs Their excuse is since #bluesky is “decentralized”, block lists have to be made public to other instances and so they‘ll make the block list available to anyone. In reality Bluesky is centralized, so they should stop with the lame excuses.
@atomicpoet I’ve literarily tried every new platform since Twitter & Pownce.. most recently #Post, #Nostr, #Bluesky, #Substack Notes and even #T2. While BlueSky seems to be the most intuitive coming from Twitter (along with Substack and Post) none of these platforms can compete with #Mastodon when it comes to interaction and overall culture.
@atomicpoet it’s really just sunk cost fallacy. He invested in #BlueSky if he switches teams and starts investing in #ActivityPub projects like Mastodon then his first investment might appear to be wasted.
Serious question: What protection does #bluesky have in place against TERFs? Those thrived on Twitter and have almost zero presence here (which is a main reason why I like it here).
Right now it's invite only which prevents most sock-puppeting, a favourite TERF tactic, but that won't be the case very long.
@esther I'm currently reading @rysiek 's protocol-level analysis of #bluesky (https://rys.io/en/167.html) and it's becoming clear that it has been designed for a very different threat model than, say, the fediverse:
> We consider portability to be crucial because it protects users from sudden bans, server shutdowns, and policy disagreements.
Broke your server's rules? Instance seized by authorities because it's been used to organise a fascist coup? No worries, bluesky got you covered. Getting harassed, on the other hand? Uh, how about… soft-hiding content tagged as hate speech from your timeline?
@mmasnick Thank you! You've changed my opinion on #BlueSky with this post.
Also, maybe you intended for this to be the obvious conclusion of your own, and if it was I agree. It won't matter if we use BlueSky, #Mastodon or #nostr in the end. Content will mostly federate freely inbetween the protocols.
As an example: If people ask me if I'm still on #IRC the answer is "yes", although for me IRC channels are just additional #Matrix rooms nowadays.
@DemocracyMattersALot He's not really in charge though, and I think he's more into Nostr. That is not to say that his association with Bluesky is not off-putting, or that there aren't a ton of other problems with it.
#BlueSky will compete with #Twitter. A clash of the titans. Dorsey v Musk. Drama. Clickbait. Memes. Good. Let them fight. And let us here stay out of it and build something good :)
Both #Bluesky and #Twitter will focus far more on monetisation than on decentralisation. They need confrontation and provocation for that. If we, the #federati, understand that and avoid that black hole, we can build something that lasts. That stays. That grows. That's my sincere hope.
Bon j'ai déjà l'adresse de la page de connexion et le format des invitations: bsky-social-xxxxxxxx
plus qu'a demander a chatGPT de me coder un script pour bruteforcer des invites
#Bluesky is interesting to watch. There's a diverse community over there, and the evolving culture seems to be negotiated on a daily basis. The first bad apples are heading over trying to destroy what's already emerged, and the engineering team - which keeps actively communicating with the crowd - is working their asses off, discussing technical solutions to current or anticipated challenges transparently. A few hours ago, they finally shipped blocks on staging. Remember? This is a beta.
@geographile Why not? People are discussing things like that transparently on #Bluesky – with the individual engineers involved – and constructively exchange perspectives and ideas. There's a lot of things currently being worked on, not only the app itself, but also the underlying protocol, and the team can only do so much at a given time. We will see a lot of new challenges with the upcoming decentralisation, and experience if and how their approach can scale. It's a wild ride.
Some thoughts on #BlueSky after a little over a day in the platform (thanks @nairb_db!):
First thought: the mobile app feels like it came from a "Build a Twitter clone with React Native in one weekend!" YouTube tutorial (this is a compliment and I won't be explaining further!)
The "What's Hot" feed is lively and fun, and I really wish Mastodon came with something similar. Watching the feed live as AOC created her account was so cool!
Overall I think the UX of #BlueSky (an app built on top of the AT Protocol) is vastly more user friendly compared to everything I've seen on the Fediverse. It's a bit disappointing that the Fediverse has had six years to hone the user experience and we still have people who feel that Mastodon isn't friendly to non-tech people.
What I argue here about the #Metas', might also be true for the growing number of people on #BlueSky, thinking of the screenshot @atomicpoet has just posted.
(E.g.) Half(!) of the #US population is on #TikTok. People are flooded with (dis-/) information, #InfoWars are increasing, and #MentalHealth and touch with reality are decreasing.
In ancient #Athens#democracy, people who became too powerful and thus threatened society were...
I'm going to put this here now so I can say "I told you so" later, but from seeing Bluesky's privacy policy stuff today it totes only exists as a freeze peach dataset to train AI and have the harvested data sold off to whoever wants it when it eventually tanks and the social media mask falls off of it. I think this also somewhat explains the completely bizarre labels feature so buyers can filter stuff out that's too hot for them easily. That's where they're planning on making their money.
Anyway, people's blocked users lists being accessible publicly are beacons for mass-harassment campaigns, it's utterly irresponsible to have even considered this, and the developers of #Bluesky literally know this (they know all about social media and what's best, apparently).
Every new bit of information about this network is showing us their colours, and their colours are the deepest shade of Red Flag Red 🚩
I'm just thankful they're showing us so early on.
Discovered today that everyone's block lists are publicly available on #Bluesky. This network has massive consent and boundaries and safeguarding problems baked in. Like, they're deliberately making it like this. I'm aghast that anybody is giving them the time of day or any trust at all, and stick with what I said above.
This network will be bad news beyond the digital if it takes off. I'm desperately hoping that it never takes off. Everything I've seen up to now has been horrifying
Day 177 and #Twitter users are surprised that #ElonMusk’s decision to remove #bluecheck validation is causing chaos and the creation of impersonation accounts. That could never have been predicted?
#Decentralized#SocialMedia is the solution for exposure to willful and arbitrary behavior by egomaniacal billionaires
/7 Day 185 - #JackDorsey now regrets #ElonMusk’s take over of #Twitter. I guess there were no signs of toxic narcissism and egomania when he advocated for #Musk as the owner a year ago
I wonder if Dorsey is feeling more anti-Musk now that #BlueSky is making the news?
The buzz around #BlueSky is real.. I have had 2 friends I left behind on #Twitter reach out and ask if I was going to sign up.. and they don't have accounts yet
Truth me told - I'm thrilled. I know there are a lot of people that want #Mastodon to "win the #socialmedia war".. but personally I'll be thrilled if every buttmunch, #hottake ahole just moseys on over to Dorsey 2.0
Friends and celebs that follow that herd are telling you more about themselves now than they ever did : listen up..