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SrRochardBunson, to random

Josie (6 years old), Bertha (6 years old) and Sophie (10 years old) worked regularly at the Maggioni Canning Company. Work began at 4 AM and the three would make from $9 to $15 a week. Sophie would do six pots of oyster a day and her mother who also worked with her said "She don't go to school. Works all the time."

Through such photos, Lewis Hine documented the harsh working conditions borne by thousands of children, who were sent to work soon after they could walk, and were paid based on how many buckets of oysters they shucked daily.

He covered around 50,000 miles a year, photographing children from Chicago to Florida working in coal mines and factories.

These photos helped to raise an outcry against child labor and made the American public become widely aware of the scope of the problem. This resulted in the establishment of organizations such as the National Child Labor Committee, in 1904, which led the fight against child labor.

indieterminacy,

@harriettmb @SrRochardBunson Those hands...

adamgreenfield, to random
@adamgreenfield@social.coop avatar

Remind me: have we talked much, here, about my notion of the “convivial stack”? This is the idea that, to the greatest extent possible, community governance, the built environment and the technological surround should all, simultaneously be designed so that they are open, participatory and actively invitational; modular, user-modifiable and extensible; and reward experimentation?

indieterminacy,

@ailurocrat @smallcircles @strypey @neil @dajb @bonfire Im not content until there are social-security funds within coding communities so that people with significant historical contributions to coding are able to seek financial support should they fall into arrears.

It exists for certain industries as a consequence of more successful groups giving back and would be a sign that the profession is operating maturely and in a sustainable manner.

civodul, to random
@civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr avatar

1990: GNU/Hurd makes /usr a symlink to /

2004: Nix does away with the FHS

2013: Guix removes /bin/sh from its build environment

2023: Debian comrades argue about “merged /usr” and its feasibility 👉 https://bugs.debian.org/1035904

indieterminacy,

@zwol @civodul ... and as somebody who started out using Linux using a small harddrive, I was punished iin the face of limited disk space. With no warning or contextualisation updating would then uninstall X11 facilities as a first point of protection

Hey, I got to overcome knowledge gaps as a consequence but my predilection for startx is a consequence of trauma not from experimentation but rather uncaring settings which could have been mitigated with signposting and forcing choices.

indieterminacy,

@zwol @civodul ... well NixOS set out explicitly to do something New And Different, ... Guix merely approached it better

Arrgh, I hope people arent feeling bad. OS developers and packagers have to do lots of patient and arduous work and yet its the bits above these layers which get all the shiny toys and then get to complain.

Its all ants and grasshoppers, really. If people arent happy with how their operating system is working they should shop around or step up and fill leadership gaps

indieterminacy,

@zwol @civodul My last Debian build died an ugly death. I was compiling a font package tool which enveloped the entire GUI infrastructure, banjazing anything in that purview.

Silly hacker, missing a bit sure.
But anything I tried to save the patient only made it sicker and sicker, what a dark rabbit hole to enter with a surgeon's knife.

If only rollbacks or containerising akin to guix shell was available, I wouldnt have left that slick rig I had lovingly crafted.

indieterminacy,

@zwol @civodul

I get it and can see why Debian was used by the the more networking end of hackerspace communities.

I feel the most pragmatic aspect I heard about Debian is that 'it can get out of your way', allowing one to uninstall a lot of baggage.

But as somebody who breaks things rollback is paramount to me. That and the emphasis on building from source are foundations of true conservatism.

timnitGebru, to random
@timnitGebru@dair-community.social avatar

This whole "this is how humans learn so whats the difference" thing while stealing so much data to make billions for a few dudes is so insidious.

indieterminacy,

@ArneBab @chris_radcliff @timnitGebru

> Following the release of the 1978 The Rutles album, ATV Music, the then-owner of the publishing rights to the Beatles catalog, sued Innes for copyright infringement. Though Innes hired a musicologist to defend the originality of his songs, he settled with ATV out of court for 50% of the royalties and shared songwriting credit on the 14 songs included on the album. As of early 2006, these six songs from the first Rutles CD
...
https://www.liquisearch.com/the_rutles/lawsuits

indieterminacy,

@ArneBab @chris_radcliff @timnitGebru I once worked at an independent music label association, I appreciate you emphasizing distinctions.

> “It’s brutal,” he said, his smile fading for the first time. “I couldn’t afford to get a lawyer that would go up against these big corporations. They’re like the banks – they’re too big to fail.”

> Innes maintained that he didn’t analyse The Beatles’ music before writing The Rutles’ songs, but instead wrote everything from memory
https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-rutles-neil-innes-interview

seamus, to random

It’s boggling that capitalism actually rewards the destruction of art. Seeing Disney become the second company to delete content in the name of tax write offs is just gobsmacking. Sure, Willow was bad TV. But should it really be good for a company to put it in a wood chipper?

indieterminacy,

@vfrmedia @seamus @ajsadauskas @McKenzie_Ben
Did you hear the story of Bob Monhouse (one of Britains largest film collectors) being arrested for being a film collector?

https://filmstories.co.uk/features/bob-monkhouse-his-movie-collection-and-the-bizarre-serious-crime-squad-case/

Terry Wogan was a witness for the prosecution, given Bob lending his 10 year old son a film.

Rarities destroyed from legal purchases for the temerity of some vindictive media companies.

What a joke that they refer to themselves as a creative industry

jwildeboer, (edited ) to random
@jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net avatar

Having been active in political lobbying for many, many years has teached me a few lessons, that might seem weird to others.

Whenever a new proposal or plan pops up, I go into risk calculation mode. How can this be abused? How can this be subverted? Is it written that way because there is a specific interest that wants the exact opposite? This is a normal pattern for me. I calculate these risks and put a probability with them. And I start preparing plans to counter negative outcomes.

indieterminacy,

@kalikiana @jwildeboer @lobingera
Recommended Content:
While working as the superintendent of a typing pool in the office of the Paymaster General in London, Mills performed as a honky-tonk pianist in the evenings and weekends.
She was spotted by a talent scout while playing piano with a semi-professional band called The Astorians, at a dance at the Woodford Golf Club in Essex.

In 1961 she released her first record, "Mrs Mills Medley", a single that entered the Top Twenty of the UK Singles...

kevlin, to random
@kevlin@mastodon.social avatar

Code generated from LLMs is going to need more testing than code written by developers. This seems self-evident to me, but I suspect a lot of people are going to learn it (or ignore it) the hard way.

Given that most existing codebases are not well tested, and most developers don't test, this does not bode well.

indieterminacy,

@kevlin Do you have any opinions regarding the risk adverse regulatory approach that the EU is taking concerning AI?

https://technomancers.ai/eu-ai-act-to-target-us-open-source-software/#more-561

It seems overly cyncial towards FOSS solutions in this domain though.

Also, Im not sure how it will play out relative to the laissez-faire approaches of Silicon Valley, let alone non capitalist and authoritarian ones.

In any case, any hopes for 'Kitemark' style standards?

indieterminacy,

@DJGummikuh @kevlin Oh crickey, a system operating off 'ceteris paribus' style responses to specific troubleshooting could have some very peculiar effects on programming - as machines can not internalise the distinction between holistic coding and firefighting.

edendestroyer, to random

guys, please start advocating people to get on signal/xmpp/matrix for their own good in this increasingly fascist environment. Even if your friends dont agree, the word needs to get out asap, nothing is a rhetoric anymore. Everyone in this group already has seen whats happening inside and outside our countries and how persecutions are pursued.

indieterminacy,

@MMRnmd @edendestroyer get pregnant people onboard.

Family members will do anything for baby photos, it helps neuter the network effect.

Also ad free platforms should be an easy sell, right?

indieterminacy,

@lukem Nice breakdown of different topics.

Felt like its x2-3 articles jammed together but lots of good abstractions;points of concern; and suggestions.

amoroso, to random
@amoroso@fosstodon.org avatar

YouTube is going to serve way more ads, so it's a good time to remind books have no ads.

indieterminacy,
breadandcircuses, to climate

A report from Leiden University in the Netherlands says...


We have crossed six of the nine boundaries within which human life on Earth will still be possible for future generations. That is not good news. Can the tide still be turned?

The planetary boundaries were discussed on May 9 as part of Leiden University's Sustainability Day. They include climate change, biodiversity loss, and ocean acidification. Six of the nine boundaries have already been crossed (see figure below). Crossing planetary boundaries increases the risk of large-scale abrupt or irreversible environmental changes.

Drastic changes are needed to ensure that the Earth remains habitable. In a keynote lecture, Jan Willem Erisman, Professor of Environmental Sustainability, said systemic changes are needed in food, energy, and how we live and consume. In fact, all planetary boundaries are interconnected.

For example, once the nitrogen limit is exceeded, it affects biodiversity and climate. Besides planetary boundaries, Erisman also stressed the importance of social boundaries, which include education, social equality, and health care. Planetary boundaries and social boundaries affect each other, and if we are to preserve a livable Earth, they must be addressed in an integrated way.


Conclusion: Unless we enact system change at the highest levels, there is no hope of preserving a livable Earth, either for humanity or for millions of other threatened plant and animal species.

FULL ARTICLE -- https://phys.org/news/2023-05-earth-unlivable-tide.html

indieterminacy,

@breadandcircuses
Ah the Rose Diagram, invented by Florence Nightingale to demonstrate that more people were dying from preventable infections during the Crimean War than from the conflict itself.

https://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk/coxcomb-diagram-1858/

Designed so that somebody as stupid as an elected member of parliament could understand the concept

@ArneBab

indieterminacy,

@ArneBab @breadandcircuses
... its also known as the 'Coxcomb' diagram:

Coxcomb
> noun: A strip of red cloth notched like the comb of a cock, which licensed jesters formerly wore in their caps.
> noun: The cap itself.
> noun: The top of the head, or the head itself.
> noun: A vain, showy fellow; a conceited, silly man, fond of display; a superficial pretender to knowledge or accomplishments; a fop.
> noun: A name given to several plants of different genera...

https://www.wordnik.com/words/coxcomb

;)

indieterminacy,

@ArneBab @breadandcircuses Maybe, but I dont know the specifics behind it or how it was fully interpreted and treated.

English culture has an aggressiveness that is like fencing - with humour and meanness just part of the game.

Its more shocking looking ffrom outside the culture than looking in.

I suspect that the ingenuity of the diagram was borne by the pain and burden of responsibility of FN and those who helped her develop it.

I could speculate on things further but Id be projecting.

J12t, to random
@J12t@social.coop avatar

What's the best approach to large-scale code that you know? Start somewhere, commit frequently, and hope for the best? Is there something better than that?

indieterminacy,

@J12t Documenting inside the coding prior to touching the code, with (uncommitted) tasks and opinons inside it.

It provides more of a historical overview of the coding as it (eventually) changes, as well as reminds oneself and others of the forgotten facets; justifications; and functionalities.

Otherwise starting with a blank file, which has a strong delineation:

  • Do I copy the entirety of the function?
  • Does this function need adapting?

It forces the hand across the ecosystem esp wrt cruft

jens, to random
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  • indieterminacy,

    @jens Given the global reach of communications these days, I hope you arent naming names - as young people need to learn from their mistakes and failings rather then stigmatised and isolated.

    Did you ever come across accounts of Nigel Farage's racist and fascist tendencies emerging given his (subsequent) behaviour as UKIP and Brexit Party leader?
    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/letter-resurfaces-from-nigel-farages-schooldays-warning-of-racist-and-fascist-tendencies-190877/

    If only Dulwich College (of which I am an alumni) had been stricter on his shittiness his entitlement may have diminished...

    jo, to fediverse

    Some thoughts about of federated-with instances. 🧵 1/2

    1. Conflating any ill will you have with Supernovae at , with the issue of search indexing on the Fediverse to justify your fediblock won't help resolve the issues around search.

    2. It isn't global search. While we shout, lock down, and don't participate in building the additions to our protocols that the needs, we've been letting index the Fediverse. It's already searchable and Google's new Perspectives tab is going to make it even easier. Maybe we could fight that rather than keep thinking it doesn't exist and continuing to write ineffective Facebook-viral style "I do not give permission..." copypasta?

    3. The does not respect your do-not-index-my-posts flag. It never has. It can't. It's not supported by the API, as @supakaity explains, and nor is it supported at level and will need to be added into a new AP protocol.

    Every instance server from the (, ), (), and (, ) lineages has full search of federated-with instances as default. All these services actually pre-date the creation of Mastodon in 2016 you can read @Polychrome 's post for their commentary on such. Fediblock all of them to create your very own or you could become part of building a better, safer, Fediverse? Perhaps through participating in the Fediverse Enhancement Proposals?

    indieterminacy,

    @jo @laurenshof @laimis

    While I was happy to boost both posts in this cogent thread you made, I would be remiss to fail to point out the irony inherent within it.

    Namely that the 2nd post:
    https://social.coop/@jo@blahaj.zone/110372902024325893

    carries a citation I made in addressing a curiosity of another person:
    https://social.coop/@indieterminacy/110372118289667934

    Glad you were able to add to the debate but I took time in my little bit (of which you caught downstream).

    I consider the failure of people to link concepts and citations uncouth

    kevinbowrin, to random
    @kevinbowrin@ottawa.place avatar

    An ActivityPub server written in Rust using SQLite, front end written in vanilla js, htmx and Tailwind, with Yubikey 2FA, Gopher and Gemini support, deployed on NixOS running on a RISC-V cluster in an old Cray enclosure. The server supports any feature of Twitter you liked or wanted and none you didn't. Only people you like can use it.

    Is that it, do I win?

    indieterminacy,
    indieterminacy,

    @kevinbowrin Sounds like an excellent stack.

    Are you planning on releasing the repo?

    civodul, to random
    @civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr avatar

    Comment seen on Phoronix: “As a GNU project we can expect a 1.0 release sometime this century.”

    You know, it’s the usual gratuitous anti-GNU statement, but… yeah, might be deserved, though we’re far from lonely: https://0ver.org/

    We’ll prove’em wrong!

    indieterminacy,

    @civodul I find the limitation stated
    > At the time of writing, the list is somewhat biased toward Python projects. If you know of some prominent ZeroVer projects

    ... all the more amusing given the problems Python had moving from V2 to V3.

    I think Knuth handles the versioning matter best:

    > What's new in TeX, version 3.14159265?

    https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/154873/whats-new-in-tex-version-3-14159265

    ;)

    indieterminacy, to random

    @bram85

    I like your gists but the wording on your repo is ambiguous:

    Are you parsing your toots and having them be read into your local gist repo?

    Or is it the other way around?

    https://apps.bram85.nl/git/bram/gists

    Do you have a specific workflow for that?

    indieterminacy,

    @bram85 well, thanks for caring and sharing in any case

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