eBikes

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

people are like: "Bikes are nice if you have time, I have to drive my kid to school."
taking my kid to school on + = 8min round-trip 😎

CurtAdams,
@CurtAdams@urbanists.social avatar

@enobacon Plus if you have decent bike infrastructure your kids can go to school by themselves and you spend no time transporting them to school!

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@CurtAdams we would need to legalize that for the first five grades though, at least in Oregon, children under 10 cannot be "unattended". See also child helmet law that makes it illegal to ride a bike

howtophil,
@howtophil@mastodon.social avatar

There are plenty of for less than $1000 and many for less than $500.

You don't need to spend $10,000 on an ebike... I see some recent videos where people seem to think that's the standard ebike cost... it is not.

davidbraze,
@davidbraze@mstdn.social avatar

seems to me that laptop computers, and power banks, pose the same fire hazard as

maybe those should also be banned from dorm rooms

https://ctnewsjunkie.com/2023/08/28/op-ed-teach-fear-or-responsibility-on-college-campuses/

stevensanderson,
@stevensanderson@mstdn.social avatar

@davidbraze seems logical 😭

flub,
@flub@mastodon.social avatar

should be allowed to go up to 35km/h

fabian,
@fabian@floss.social avatar

@flub I'm talking German bike lanes here. So, when in doubt, too narrow, not well maintained. And speed diff inner city would be less on the road where cars go max. 55ish, on avg often less then 40. Average non-e-bike is below 20.

Sure, better bike lanes would be ideal. But that'll take years/decades longer than allowing 35km/h e-bikes.

flub,
@flub@mastodon.social avatar

@fabian Nevertheless, if you say they can't use bike lanes you just encourage more car use because people don't feel safe. I'm fine with giving people the choice to choose the bike lane or not though (also should be so for normal bikes).
Also, you don't have to do 35km/h. I also adopt my cycling speed to the circumstances just like I do with my car driving speed.

marcprecipice,
@marcprecipice@xoxo.zone avatar

I recommended this bike a while ago, the Cannondale Compact Neo. I take it back; reliability has been awful. Currently on my way back to the shop with it and then I’ll donate it.

fbaum,
@fbaum@social.ridetrans.it avatar

@enobacon @marcprecipice @amd The Rad Runner 3 has hydraulic, with a price boost to match ($2300).

Tern has so many options!

The Kalkhoff Compacts are $$, but so cool!

enobacon, (edited )
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@fbaum @marcprecipice @amd dang, my radrunner was (edit) $2030 (with a front basket and passenger bars, edit btw you can get cable-actuated hydraulic brakes for under $100) with mechanical brakes and that was less than a year ago. The rei at least has a trigger shifter with its 7-speed "megarange [i.e. that last step's a doozy]" freewheel (who has the 11-52 8, 9, or 10sp cassettes though? also IDK why hub motors with no torque arms)

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

Besides that UPS lost half of the checks their drivers requested and is now trying to bill me for 50% of the $320 charges and fees, get a load of these customs tariffs wtf spokes, rim, mounting rail and why is trump's tariff still with us?

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

also the motors were priced at $215 and $375 from ebikes.ca, but ordered as part of 2 kits, so the 483 x 25% = $120 was both of them together but based on the cost from china? What a confusing mess.

FolksVelo,
@FolksVelo@mas.to avatar

Kudos to the EU Parliament for their ruling on replaceable batteries. Great news for consumers and the environment... and their ruling will not only cover smart phones, too will have to follow this new regulation.

wackyIdeas,

@FolksVelo @seachanger Awesome news.

the5thColumnist,
@the5thColumnist@mstdn.ca avatar

We should be calling what we call because that is how most of us use them.

jonny,
@jonny@neuromatch.social avatar

what more can i say about except they are the most fun thing on this planet and also will make you never want to drive in your car again

cestfleuve,
@cestfleuve@mastodon.nz avatar

@jonny I'm looking at finance options so I can afford to buy one for life before I can afford to get it outright.

KenHemmerling,
@KenHemmerling@mstdn.ca avatar

@jonny Heard

tk,
@tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com avatar

Who remembers back when were powered by gasoline engines? (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piaggio_Ciao_SC_Arcobaleno_1973.jpg)

Mac_CZ,

@tk I'm waiting for the evolution when e-bikes start to look like motorbikes and e-scooters like gasoline scooters.

tk,
@tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com avatar

@Mac_CZ We're already there. :blobfoxmlem:

benfulton,
@benfulton@urbanists.social avatar

From David Zipper on X:

In 6 days, the NY Times has run 4 articles about e-bikes -- all negative.

A few other stories the paper might consider:
🔹 E-bikes pollute far less than even electric cars
🔹 Compared to autos, e-bikes pose minimal risk to other people
🔹 Unlike cars, e-bikes provide exercise

capntransit,
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benfulton,
@benfulton@urbanists.social avatar

@capntransit @davidzipper I wasn't sure if that was a live account or just an X mirror.

ordinoides,
@ordinoides@kolektiva.social avatar

People For Bikes, the main bicycle industry lobbying group, is trying really hard to keep ebike repair tools and manuals out of the hands of independent repair shops through carveouts for ebikes from right to repair laws on the grounds of battery safety.

This is very similar to the tactics used by car companies to keep car owners locked to dealerships for repairs.

Yes, batteries can be dangerous. But what's even more dangerous is that people will improperly dispose of broken bikes when they don't have access to the documentation and diagnostic tools manufacturers make, but only license to official shops.

Besides the battery thing is a big red herring. The stuff they're holding back isn't battery repair tools, it's documentation of everything else like controllers and throttles and sensors. They would rather brick your bike than let you have control over it.

https://grist.org/transportation/why-e-bike-companies-love-battery-recycling-but-hate-independent-repair/

davidzipper,
@davidzipper@mastodon.social avatar

In the last 6 days the NY Times has run 4 articles about e-bikes -- all of them negative.

A few other stories the paper might consider:
🔹 E-bikes pollute far less than even electric cars
🔹 Compared to autos, e-bikes pose minimal risk to other people
🔹 Unlike cars, e-bikes provide exercise

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quats,

@davidzipper An e-bike can be as fast as a car in city traffic, while using less gas and being far easier to park. And allowing for more vehicles in traffic. Cities would be nuts to not consider them.

juergen_hubert,
@juergen_hubert@thefolklore.cafe avatar

@davidzipper Well, the NYT is a conservative newspaper, so that should not be surprising.

BakerRL75,
@BakerRL75@m.ai6yr.org avatar

From Los Angeles Times: “E-bike programs and other green transit efforts are sprouting throughout the state. Will they catch on?”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-02/e-bike-programs-and-other-green-transportation-efforts-are-sprouting-throughout-the-state-will-they-catch-on

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

If NYT wants to clutch pearls about kids vs , it should be about switches and auto-off settings to keep them from activating when toddlers want to play with the cranks or levers and stuff. And also ban cars.

Erich,
@Erich@a2mi.social avatar

There has been a deluge of articles in the last couple weeks about the danger of and California's push to require licensing to ride them.

As a bike rider it's never surprising to see the media and drivers blame riders for their own deaths, no matter how egregious the driver error was. And some of the cited examples are quite egregious.

But this push for education and licensing made me wonder:

How effective is Driver's Ed at improving road safety?

Not at all.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8142340/

Erich,
@Erich@a2mi.social avatar

This NYT article is full of examples where eBike riders were doing everything they could to ride safely, and yet drivers still crashed into them.

The solution is not to reform the eBike riders, it's to reform the drivers, the cars, and the built environment.

No amount of education would have kept these people safe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/29/health/ebikes-safety-teens.html

osma,
@osma@mas.to avatar

@Erich
Spot on. There are only two effective methods for increasing traffic safety:

  1. Build environments where safety is a design factor. It's not like there aren't good examples.
  2. Include mandatory traffic lessons on bikes in driver ed and especially for professional drivers.

https://road.cc/content/news/182717-video-how-teach-bus-drivers-give-cyclists-space

dhope,
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There is a conversation to be had about e-bike safety, but this lead is INSANE. Two stories of deaths on and ZERO comment on the fact both were killed by Cars!
Feel like it could drive an entire @TheWarOnCars episode.
NYTimes: ‘A Dangerous Combination’: Teenagers’ Accidents Expose E-Bike Risks
‘A Dangerous Combination’ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/29/health/ebikes-safety-teens.html?unlocked_article_code=qnijVDV5R-JVCoRUtNR6dMqpr_hQOHfAzi5nDjVYkmR63av2nxBySOy8vLnUIbWcAg4nRup-gBDzFvgw7jk5Y4xyzxf-EpSkhlJmPI6JqJQkcBaTtsjz2xmO7_Z94j9RG4RxeQYXXZmUORL_DzRItRMi4-Rb4d8ho30SPt7bp3im6TfdqrLQimsXgh8yS6gy01w-cb0DvBgqNQap-_dP9QZPzvyjoxf8zXUmHErzQCcS4Kb9Fk6bjGUnzpA85badTiz91D5sqdT39atRqr4lfP0Ag1OrpWHoWsUy-bPYLVofEPqSENenurEgZ8nmmSMtBBcyijqhEa0LdoIx&smid=nytcore-android-share

TheWarOnCars,
@TheWarOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

@dhope Yeah, we've been talking about it on our Slack. It's a very weird piece!

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

this chart is different if you just ride for journeys under 3-5 miles.

https://youtu.be/cO6txCZpbsQ?t=419

phil,
@phil@urbanists.social avatar

@enobacon @climatetown is the best.

carraway,
@carraway@sfba.social avatar

@enobacon They're a good bridge to all sorts of things.

Zoll, German
@Zoll@social.bund.de avatar

🚲 Die -Fahrradstaffel im Einsatz – Aufgriffe von Munition und Rauschgift:

Beim Hauptzollamt gibt es seit Anfang letzten Jahres eine , die mit im Streifendienst entlang der deutsch-niederländischen Grenze unterwegs ist.

Die Grenze zu den 🇳🇱 im Kreis ist geprägt durch den Naturpark . Über kleine Waldwege gelangt man hier ins Nachbarland. 1/2

Animiertes GIF: 1. Drei Personen in Dienstkleidung des Zolls fahren auf E-Bikes auf einem Waldweg. 2. Munition, verpackt ein transparenten Plastiktüten 3. Amphetamin in transparenten Plastiktüten, daneben ein Joint.

Zoll,
@Zoll@social.bund.de avatar

Der Zoll kontrolliert auch in unwegsamen Gelände immer wieder , die nach 🇩🇪 Einreisende mitbringen.

Bei Kontrollen der Fahrradstaffel im Mai und Juni wurden unter anderem über 500 Schuss Munition, Cannabis und Amphetamin sichergestellt und entsprechende Strafverfahren eingeleitet. 2/2

Pedalist,

@Zoll Gute Arbeit. 500 Schuss Munition, damit kann man schon eine Menge Schaden anrichten.

show,
@show@mastodon.transportevolved.com avatar

There's never been more choice in the electric bicycle market than we now see, and #ebikes are a great way to #decarbonize your #commute, reduce #congestion and improve your #health to boot!

But how do you go about choosing a good one? We've got you covered!

https://youtu.be/s7_bliDgen4

rifter,
@rifter@mastodon.social avatar

@show Nice, a future project🤩

ordinoides,
@ordinoides@kolektiva.social avatar

Whoops, who would have guessed that a company running on venture capital and selling over-engineered you can only control from a smartphone app would fall apart? Don't buy a bike, folks (if they start selling again.) And if you already have one, well, you're probably fucked. Only a matter of time before it gets bricked by the company when their app shuts down, or when it breaks and you can't send it in for repair (proprietary parts means normal bike shops can't do anything for you).

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/10/vanmoof-the-e-bike-darling-skids-off-track-sales-paused-execs-depart/amp/

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

I just rode my bike 15 minutes round-trip and came back with spicy noodles from the food cart in Hillsdale. make streetcar suburbs into

miyelsh,
@miyelsh@urbanists.social avatar

@enobacon I love how spontaneous I can be on a bike. See that coffee shop? No need to find parking or get off at the next stop, just pull up and find the nearest bike rack.

tagesschau, German
@tagesschau@ard.social avatar

Volle Lager und hohe Rabatte im Fahrradhandel

Die Lieferengpässe im Fahrradhandel sind vorbei, die Lager so voll wie noch nie. Gleichzeitig drosselt die Inflation die Nachfrage. Wer aktuell ein Rad kaufen will, kann sich über gute Angebote freuen. Von Anke Heinhaus.

➡️ https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/fahrraeder-billig-ladenhueter-100.html?at_medium=mastodon&at_campaign=tagesschau.de

Torret,

@tagesschau Schön wäre es. Vermutlich gehts da nur um die Discounter Räder und Co. zum Beispiel, hat meinen Liefertermin um zwei Wochen auf insgesamt nun 8 Wochen Wartezeit verschoben.

davidzipper,
@davidzipper@mastodon.social avatar

My latest article in Bloomberg CityLab:

E-bike rebates are fantastic. So why are US states/cities making it so hard to get one?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-07/credit-suisse-sued-in-japan-over-sale-of-greensill-linked-bonds#xj4y7vzkg

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