Meta (owner of Facebook, Instagram & WhatsApp) is joining the fediverse very soon and we have to seriously prepare. This isn't a theoretical scenario anymore.
@liaizon
I really hope Mozilla.social opens up to more people and makes more noise about the importance of the underlying federation before Meta launches their instance.
Otherwise the next greedy PM at Meta will absolutely just kick federation and interoperability to the wayside entirely, just for the sake of some rushed feature to add to their resume and move on.
Thinking of a scenario where people on the Fediverse get used to talking to people on this ‘new’ app and as soon as Meta realizes this, it pulls the plug. Also, scenarios like, “Data of our users are on YOUR server. Delete them! Here’s an email from our lawyer.”
@liaizon@tonyg@fediversereport From my understanding, a single interaction with a user on another server starts federation. Meta's new server will be a huge problem unless servers can block federation. I would like to follow people on Meta from here. Can we not federate, but not block?
Ok that seams nuts. Never thought this would happen as it would mean that people would delete Facebook accounts and basically move to mastodon or such. But I bet it's only between Facebook Instagram and WhatsApp. Like you could message people on Instagram and WhatsApp from Facebook and Visa versa and not actually follow people on mastodon.
Interesting. I'm actually not reacting as negatively as most of the other folks here seem to be, I feel like it's a "the more the merrier" situation. Much like how I'm not mad that Gmail is using the email protocol, for example, it's good that it can interact with all other email programs and servers out there.
"I'm not mad that Gmail is using the email protocol ... it's good that it can interact with all other email programs and servers out there"
Unless you've been sending email out of the same domain name since 1998, and Google/Gmail suddenly starts bouncing anything you send from that domain name into Gmail because you don't have the certs Google/Gmail wants
A big issue - Google suddenly does something / requires something that breaks things from the norm, and it isn't Google that has to deal with the flood of 'why is it broken??? I didnt change anything!! I pay you money - FIX IT emails' because they dont provide immediate or any support. See also microsoft et al
Is anyone for real going to federate with them? This is such a dumb move, who would think they care about this? It is a fucking oxymoron, how do they think they are going to make money with this? Jesus, capitalism is truly in autopilot mode at this stage.
Edit:
Meta is talking to celebrities like Oprah and the Dalai Lama about being early users.
WTF, how do they think it's a good idea to ask the fucking monarchist paedophile who just recently was discovered licking a fucking child a good idea? Facebook can't die fast enough.
I'd say that they are likely to remain around making bad decisions which has caused problems for instances using other software. Imagine that this has been a problem with how mastodon treated GNU/Social instances, and that was just one guy as the developer. Imagine how much worse this will get with a large corporation fucking things up and causing overloads because of the scale of it. That's if they aren't scared off or want to do their own thing like Gab did.
Well, I hate this. The whole reason for coming over here in the first place (for me) was to get away from as much corporate influence as possible. This is the last thing I want to see.
@KoboldCoterie Yep this is gonna be really rough. We are not ready for this. The non facebook fediverse will also grow really fast just with this new spotlight as every startup hears the news that they can reach all the new Instagram people using an open api they don't have to pay for
"Meta chief product officer Chris Cox showed off a set UI mock-ups to the assembled employees, which were promptly leaked online."
"The new platform, which Cox referred to as “our response to Twitter,” will be a standalone program, based on Instagram and integrating #ActivityPub, the same networking protocol that powers Mastodon."
"Cox said the company already has celebrities committed to using the app, including DJ Slime, and was in discussions with other big names, including Oprah and the Dalai Lama." -The Verge
Ok if anyone knows DJ Slime, Oprah or the Dali Lama, can they get in touch and we get to those three first and set them up with their own instances of like GoToSocial or something?
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