cassidy, (edited ) to linux
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

Canonical has poisoned search results for many apps plus a Linux distro name. For example, Googling “Spotify elementary OS” returns an auto-generated page on the Snap Store site that requires using a terminal, installing a whole package manager as root, and missing out on details and updates in AppCenter.

elementary would point you to Flathub where you can install w/two clicks and then get AppCenter integration.

How do we feel about this?

eugenialoli, to linux
@eugenialoli@mastodon.social avatar

I don't understand what is the point of releasing an IDE via , when that flatpak doesn't include all the necessary dev tools, and it can't access the ones outside its sandboxing. Honestly. What's the point? I'm looking at you, .

Personally, I can't stand flatpaks or . is nicer just because it's just one delete away from within the file manager and doesn't leave crumbs everywhere. But overall, I prefer , and .

sonny, (edited ) to linux
@sonny@floss.social avatar

Anyone in my network interested in research and prototype network portal for Flatpak?

In the long run we are interested in:

• Give more control to users over app network access
• Allow apps that need network access to be considered “Safe”

We expect something like unsharing the network namespace and a bridge on the host for permissions / monitoring.

Boost welcome :boost_love:

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filippodb, (edited ) to linux Italian
@filippodb@mastodon.uno avatar

Perchè ha superato il record del 3% delle installazioni globali su PC dopo anni di stagnazione? Io non mi sorprendo, nelle ultime versioni ha finalmente creato un ambiente semplice e minimale che non fosse un'ennesima complessa copia di Windows. e permettono finalmente installazioni delle applicazioni senza complicazioni!
Ultimo colpaccio è stato l'adozione di linux su nel 2022 che ha portato molta più compatibilità con i giochi 👍

omgubuntu, to linux
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar
sonny, to random
@sonny@floss.social avatar

💡 portal for anonymous telemetry. Hear me out!

Many developers want to have telemetry so that they can learn about how their app is used and how they perform.

It can lead to better software, but it's also a privacy nightmare 😮‍💨

Currently, apps need to enable full network for it (or more) and users have 0 control over it. This is happening. Right now.

What if there was a way to remove all the negative aspects of telemetry so that we can consider it safe? 🛡️

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dhrystone, to linux
@dhrystone@techhub.social avatar

Reasons is better than (or indeed the opposite).. go!

ben, to ubuntu
@ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk avatar

Why the fuck are the install instructions now suggesting you install on using ?

I don't particularly like the experience of using snap on a , I sure as hell don't want that on a server.

acme.sh it is then

tilvids, to ubuntu
@tilvids@mstdn.social avatar

only Store, adds telemetry & 45 alpha: & Open Source News :linux:

(video courtesy of @thelinuxEXP Be sure to Like, Comment, and Subscribe!) 💙

https://tilvids.com/w/9bUdoUUXHq1Xa475SkyPNi

j_bertolotti, to ubuntu
@j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz avatar

I assume there is a very good technical reason for to use , but honestly, after years of getting more and more approachable by casual users, having to fiddle with the command line every few weeks because the system complains it can't update this or that feels like a huge step back.

TTimo, to steam
@TTimo@mastodon.social avatar

Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical's repackaging of the Steam client through snap.

The best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to follow the instructions at http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ and use the official .deb

We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues.

If you don't want the .deb, please at least consider the flatpak version.

thegreybeardofthetree, to openSUSE

@linux Sharing a 'small' inconvenience I had to fix with (I suspect is the same) - I couldn't launch snaps (spotify, bitwarden) after update - error was: cannot determine seccomp compiler version in generateSystemKey fork/exec /usr/lib/snapd/snap-seccomp: no such file or directory

The fix (I first tried re-installing, didn't work) was to:
a. locate snap-seccomp - was in /usr/libexec/snapd
b. symlink: ln -s /usr/libexec/snapd /usr/lib/snapd

sonny, to random
@sonny@floss.social avatar

So while Flathub celebrates 1B downloads, Snap celebrates 1M downloads?

It seems off, I expected Flathub to be more popular but not by that much. Specially taking into account non desktop app use cases.

Snap doesn't have public stats so it's impossible to dig, I'd be interested in knowing more about this.

omgubuntu, to random
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

ICYMI: Hands on with the new 'App Center' in Ubuntu 23.10 - https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/09/ubuntu-app-center-app-arrives #ubuntu #linux #snap

ronald, to ubuntu
@ronald@ohai.social avatar

is it just me or is using both and at the same time a bit of a ?

Linux_Is_Best, to random

Flatpak -vs- Snap

Arguably, there is no competition here. Flatpak won.

The service alone uses little to no resources. That's good for not only older systems, but generally anyone who wants theirs to be well optimized.

Many developments update their projects via Flatpak ahead of Snap, with Snap being an afterthought. On that note, many of them appear to have abandon Snap

Except for Canonical's Ubuntu, I know of 0 (zero) transactional distros that use Snap, performing Flatpak

smallcircles, to ubuntu
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

The OS upgrade was an opportunity for to once more saddle me down with a install of , removing my hand-installed apt version.

And I get all the funny little horrors back. Just now after a sudden Firefox crash, I now have the hand mouse pointer on any URL link.. that is completely BS and unworkable.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1299009/the-hand-pointer-mouse-cursor-changed-after-a-snap-refresh-how-do-i-change-it-b

cassidy, (edited ) to opensource
@cassidy@blaede.family avatar

If an open source app developer says their app is only officially available and supported from one specific build, but you would like to distribute it somewhere else, so the app author has added an in-app note when running from an unsupported package saying it's not supported, do you still package it, and how?

If I missed an option, leave a reply!

gamingonlinux, to ubuntu
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Monolecte, to linux French
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Bonjour les !

Je change d’ordi et j’ai besoin de bons

Je lâche pour pour cause grosse allergie aux

L’ s’est bien passée sur le nouvel ordi qui est un

Le truc, c’est que je veux ne récupérer que les données pertinentes de /home.

En 12 ans, c’est blindé de résidus de config, et de fichiers, sous-dossiers qui ne servent à rien.

Donc, j’ai les données-données et les trucs de config de certains logiciels que je réinstalle.

cichy1173, to ubuntu Polish
@cichy1173@mastodon.social avatar

Szukam osób z systemem Ubuntu lub dowolnym innym z zainstalowaną obsługą Snap. Mam prośbę.

omgubuntu, to ubuntu
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

Want to try Ubuntu's all-Snap desktop? Here's how https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/06/try-ubuntu-snap-desktop

vanillaos, to linux Italian
@vanillaos@fosstodon.org avatar

A reminder that Vanilla OS, @pop_os_official , @elementary and many others, doesn’t impose snaps and still allows you to install your Deb files 😉

smigol, to linux
@smigol@rigcz.club avatar

I think that should do package management. I hate when I have to install some software, but it only has a .deb package. I think that a unified packaging format for Linux would be good.

takes a lot of space and doesn't work well with CLI software. relies on a closed backend and is not very fast.

I want better, more user friendly .

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