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XMPP Summit 26

After the lunch break we have continued our discussions on IM -NG, XSF Organisation, and MUC/MIX.

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-summit-26/


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XMPP Summit 26

We are starting the second day with the topic of Read Synchronization.

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-summit-26/


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xmpp, (edited ) to chat
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XMPP Summit 26

Continuing after the lunch break. Before, we had fruitful discussions about "next-gen" XMPP, -Interoperability and !

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-summit-26/


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xmpp, to Brussels
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Polychrome, to random

needs a client that looks and feels like MSN Messenger.

debacle,
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@Polychrome

From the screen shots, it looks a bit like before version 1, i.e. 0.16.8. Maybe you use that or you can fork from it? 🙂

Or how about ?

https://swift.im/

qbi, to random German
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Ich möchte mal wieder die Liste der Onion-Adressen der XMPP-Server aktualisieren:
https://github.com/qbi/xmpp-onion-map/blob/master/v3-onions-map.lua

Wer von euch kennt, Server, die über erreichbar sind? Wie sind deren Adressen?

mima, to Matrix

I think at this point it's worth thinking about why we need text chats and voice/video calls integrated with each other like what (try to), , and do

Why not just go back to or something like for text, and something like for calls like the old days ​:sagume_think:​

RE: https://fedi.catboy.agency/notes/9op18npi5hjw1553

debacle,
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@lispi314 @mima @untsuki

TTBOMK, "modern" (i.e. WebRTC based) A/V calls in are always e2e encrypted. That's what , , and are doing.

File exchange in nowadays is either HTTP upload (covered by ) or file transfer, which should be e2e encrypted, too, but I'm not sure about it.

ruben, to linux
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for people using / . What are the good clients?

I think on MacOS / iOS Monal seems to be the only one that worked for me, but curious about other clients + favorites.

neustradamus, to Java
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matthew, to sysadmin
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I've been doing more research on email servers and email hosting.

It would be great to talk with a Sys Admin who handles email for multiple domains and clients.

I am working with a company who has been doing web design and hosting for their web design clients since the '90s.

They hosted their email starting way back when and have been using the same email server pretty much ever since. It needs to be replaced soon.

The question is what to replace it with.

Host our own? And all the complications that come with that.

Manage the email but host somewhere else with a company that specializes in email? Such as MXroute:

https://mxroute.com

Host our own email IMAP accounts, but use a separate service for sending mail so we don't have to worry about deliver-ability?

Let me know if you have experience with a similar situation.

debacle,
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@matthew @10leej @dsfgs

has a great, dedicated community nowadays, see @xmpp, @joinjabber, @snikket_im and many more.

What does not have: Huge amounts of venture capital. If that is bad or good depends on point of view 🙂

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Announcement

We'll apply to Google Summer of Code 2024 as umbrella organization!

If you are interested please reach out via gsoc@muc.xmpp.org or https://mail.jabber.org/postorius/lists/gsoc.xmpp.org/

neo, to Matrix

The more I use the more I yearn for .
The amount of resources a Matrix home server consumes is pretty insane too.
I also have this annoying bug / behavior with any Matrix client ( iOS and desktop, ) where the chat view randomly jumps around while you’re reading a backlog. It kinda sucks.

debacle,
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@neo

Mildly related: I will use Matrix (i.e. :matrix.org) soon using my client, thanks to , a personal gateway from to Matrix. I'm still in test mode, but I'm optimistic that and will replace nheko on my desktop soon.

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SUMMIT 26

We have released a new blogpost on the organisation: https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-summit-26/

Please read, update and sign-up if you are interested.

Meet us at the days after, too.

See you in !

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Events

We host Realtime Lounge at 2024! Meet XMPP folks and members!

Let's hang out, exchange & talk. Yes, we have stickers!

, on February 3rd & 4th 2024

https://xmpp.org/2024/01/xmpp-at-fosdem-2024/

xmpp, (edited ) to chat
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25 years ago Jeremie Miller made an announcement of what would become the initiation, development and propagation of the protocol until today!

Join the journey!

https://slashdot.org/story/99/01/04/1621211/open-real-time-messaging-system

Happy birthday,
XMPP!

:xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp:

debacle, to opensource
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Happy 25. Birthday, Jabber!

Today, 25 years ago, wrote:

" is a new project I recently started to create a complete platform for with transparent to other IM systems (, , etc). Most of the initial design and protocol work is done, as well as a working server and a few test clients."

https://slashdot.org/story/99/01/04/1621211/open-real-time-messaging-system

nat, to telegram German

Der Telegram Messenger gibt es ja schon seit einiger Zeit, und verspricht starke Verschlüsselung. Dieses Versprechen kommt jedoch mit einigen Sternchen.

In meinem Artikel erkläre ich das Problem kurz für Anfänger:

https://www.kagel.ch/artikel/telegram-messenger/

debacle,
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@nat

Das Hauptproblem von Telegram, Signal, Whatsapp, Threema usw. ist, daß sie zentralisierte Dienste in den Händen weniger sind. Das ist zu viel Machtkonzentration.

Besser (ggf. nach und nach) auf federierte Messengers umsteigen, z.B. — was ganze 14 Jahre älter ist als Telegram 🙂

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Have you convinced a full normie to ? How has it gone? Were there any problems or need of being help desk? Why is "ok" Monal the best client for iOS?

debacle,
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@mms

Sure, family, friends... The easiest onboarding was .im (Android only) by @daniel.

A typical "full normie" forgets their password and at some point (new device or whatever) they need it. Quicksy solves this by using the phone number as id and SMS password reset.

A fork with the same functionality would be awesome.

@Monal

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ruari, to random
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I wanted to setup secure group messaging solution (+calls and video calls) between members of my family but this turned out to be non trivial because so many "good" solutions these days expect a smartphone and (valid) phone number. However… my youngest does not have a smartphone.

After a few dead ends I managed to setup Signal for them anyway, despite this.

Really though, it should not be this hard! Why are all these services tied to phones and phone numbers anyway!?

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Announcement

Recently the XSF members voted a new and . Congratulations and a warm welcome to the elected for the new period.

See our organization overview:
https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation/

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The Newsletter for November '23 is out!

Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our !

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

https://xmpp.org/2023/12/the-xmpp-newsletter-november-2023/

praveen, to Facebook
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Mainstream social media and messaging apps (, , etc) are a nightmare for our personal data and freedoms.

We have replacements for most of these services but maintaining these services has recurring cost and effort.

diasp.in is a community project supported by volunteers. We offer , and services.

If we don't find enough volunteers by October 31st, we will be forced to shut it down.

Please volunteer at https://diasp.in/volunteer

debacle,
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