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downey

@downey@floss.social

Software freedom and digital rights activist. FLOSS.social founder. Boards: https://floss.social/@librehealth, https://floss.social/@fdroidorg, @gnome, https://fosstodon.org/@osuosl.

Formerly: #OpenSource programs at #UnitedNations Foundation, #Community at OpenMRS.

Quality toots since 2017.

#FreeSoftware #HumanRights #DigitalAutonomy #SurveillanceCapitalism #privacy #UN #fedi22

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luis_in_brief, to random
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Allright nerds: your challenge, today: when, exactly, does a copyright expiration go into effect? Curveball: Puerto Rico is an hour ahead of DC. Relevance: this is not entirely hypothetical and I guarantee anyone nerdy enough to figure this out on a Saturday will be tickled when I DM you why.

(I have looked at CRS but not yet dived into caselaw.)

CC @marklemley @richardfontana @pchestek https://social.coop/

downey,
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kaiserkiwi, to threads
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Honestly, the way is evolving right now, I can absolutely understand why so many Mastodon instances are already blocking Threads before it becomes part of the .

For over a year now, I've known how social media can be and how social it really could be. In less than two weeks Threads has managed to become a brown swamp of anger and hate speech.

If this hits the Fediverse, then all the moderators' work over the last few years will have been for nothing.

Threads is simply turning into a racist, trans-hostile, homophobic swamp due to a lack of moderation.

As a moderator of my Mastodon instance, I was one of the few who was against blocking threads directly without having seen anything of it. Now I would very much vote in favour. (And I'm glad we voted for the block already together with the community)

A lot really needs to happen for Threads to earn a place in the Fediverse. If it will ever happen. (Doubt)

downey,
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sonny, (edited ) to random
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Which team are you on?

downey,
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downey, to threads
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:fediverse: 🤔 Is it just me, or is there pretty much a 1:1 overlap between the most hardcore apologists and those same people who had been fighting hard for centralized moderation services?

downey, to meta
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🤔 Social Media, 2016: Sure, Trump has done some bad stuff, but we should give him a chance. What harm could it do?

🤕 Social Media, 2023: Sure, Facebook have done some bad stuff, but we should give them a chance. What harm could it do?

eloquence, to threads
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@renchap @Gargron

It would be good to know if this behavior of "Limit" at the server-level is considered a bug by the project:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26301

That'll probably factor into whether servers want to limit or suspend .

downey,
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:mastodon_oops: FYI, setting or any server to "Limit" will not keep its posts out of the feeds of your non-consenting users:

https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26301#issuecomment-1868240966

downey, to Ethics
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🤔 Throughout our lives we will all be faced with difficult decisions to make about complex problems.

The best advice?

Read.

Read all we can, study everything there is to know about the situation. Learn all we can. Listen to other opinions.

When we've done all that, we've done all the hard work.

The last part is easy.

Do the right thing.

downey,
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What do the pro-Nazi and the apologists' defensive posts have in common?

People get real wordy and stumble over themselves when they know deep down inside that their actions are betraying core human values.

Moral decisions are easy and don't require a wall of text to defend.

007, to FediPact

I think we need something like for balance. All the effort is going into and who is banning from federation.

What about those who want to join/move to an instance that is entirely open? Those servers should be represented too

Thoughts?

downey,
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@007 is about moderation and protecting users from known harm, and about prioritizing marginalized peoples' safety over privileged peoples' reach. There are lots of servers like that don't block any others no matter how much vile and hateful content they host (such as ). But worth pointing out that most of those have already been limited and/or blocked by those servers who do take moderation responsibilities seriously.

downey, to FediPact
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Anyone who signed @FediPact might want a badge to add to your server's about page (or wherever). Get the SVG at: https://img.shields.io/badge/signed-brightgreen?label=FediPact&labelColor=e861a0&link=https%3A%2F%2Ffedipact.online%2F

sergi, to random
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Well, this fella just lost a reader.

downey,
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@sergi Does it work in https://scribe.rip/?

hachyderm, to random
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Hello Hachyderm,

Over the last few days our team has been reviewing the details of the Threads implementation of ActivityPub and developing a statement regarding federating with Threads. We expect to post an article on our community blog Friday afternoon Pacific Time.

downey,
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@alxndr Rationalizing how an instance operator's 2 decades of global abuse is somehow still consistent with community rules and policies can be painstakingly hard work.

dangillmor, to random
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Can someone catch me up on the de-federation thing that's apparently happening?

downey,
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@dangillmor

We all did the same thing with other similar known-abusive actors Gab and Truth Social when they threatened to join. It worked.

@paul

downey, to meta
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☣️ :facebook: Posted today: Video overview of massive moderation failure across all networks filled with criminal activity and abuse.

Yet somehow countless folks still think we need to "give them the benefit of the doubt" and "wait and see".

We have seen more than enough abuse to exclude them. For nearly two decades.

📺 Watch "Facebook is a Cesspool of Fraud, Fake Accounts, Scams and Worse":

https://invidious.slipfox.xyz/watch?v=jk7crtzDl_E&local=true

downey, to mastodon
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Hey @mike, in your Medium® post, you stated that both your @Flipboard server and your proprietary webapp have "signed on to the Mastodon server covenant". But https://joinmastodon.org/covenant is very clear that limited federation, such as your new server is doing, is incompatible with the covenant.

Was this an oversight in the planning process?

downey, to microsoft
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:microsoft: 😡 TFW when Europe scheduled a 06:00 meeting, and then decided that it won't allow to work correctly in today.

fenarinarsa, to threads
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@mosseri said that federation with ActivityPub would be per-user basis and OPT-IN.

Basically, any user from Threads won't be visible from Mastodon unless they activate some option.

This completely defeats interoperability with the Fediverse ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Interestingly enough, some replies in this thread say that they don't want to federate with "the cesspit that is Mastodon" and that they don't want to be spammed from external networks.

They seem to forget what company is behind Threads.

https://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/C051TLnud8U

downey,
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@fenarinarsa Stockholm Syndrome is real

onepict, (edited ) to random
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Thinking about how Folks held on to Twitter and Facebook for so long. I kinda feel that the folks who want mastodon/fedi to replace those networks perhaps didn't realise that for some of us, we'd already moved several times.

Once you've moved on from your first one emotionally it's easier.

So for those of us where this isn't their first rodeo what was your network pre Facebook? :BoostOK:

downey,
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@onepict @hamishtpb i am checking all these boxes and feeling very old 😅

downey,
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@onepict Orkut? SixDegrees?

downey,
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@onepict Yep, they are good until they're harmful, and then they're not. Fortunately my meaningful relationships exist at a layer above the communication layer, and are generally able to persist despite changes beneath.

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
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There are some hot and appropriate takes going around about the "leadership" at the top of major fediverse projects, and its imminent failures. One of those leaders literally describes himself as a "dictator". Well, now his technology has a new dictator, one who has no credible pretense to benevolence.

It seems there are two kinds of FOSS-folk among us. One contextualizes their technical work with a political understanding; be it anarchism, socialism, or some variant of an oppositional outlook, which posits FOSS in an anticapitalist, antiracist or liberatory context. They know there's something out there to stand against, and aspirationally, replace. I salute them and hope we can all build together.

The other, while more-or-less into FOSS, seems to be motivated by nothing deeper than a "tech is neato" ethos. One could argue that it's this second type that has brought us to the crisis.

If tech has any chance to facilitate liberatory - or even alternative - agency (and it's arguable if that chance exists), it has to be about something more than itself. As we watch ActivityPub, Mastodon and Pixelfed get recuperated into the Zuckerverse, here's hoping we can figure out a way to sustain and support those developers of next-gen decentralized and peer-to-peer social networking who understand this

downey,
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@ophiocephalic Morality vs. Amorality

me, to threads
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This whole anti- , thing is getting out-of-hand. The attached image is a post by the admin of Floss.social and it honestly blew my mind.

I run my own personal Mastodon instance so I can choose with what instances I defederate from, don't have to worry about getting banned for sharing content in non-English languages (namely Finnish), can customize it to my liking (add any sort of emojis) and of course have the freedom to post content on a wide range of topics rather being on an instance that encourages one specific dogma, ideology, viewpoint, or topic.

For (Buddies of Budgie, I chose the Floss.social instance after moving from Fosstodon since there was a restriction at the time on supported / allowed languages (strictly English) and problematic moderation. Instances were being blocked rather trivially and while it isn't clear that Floss.social is going to be blocking Threads, the language of the owner / admin is rather concerning.

It's concerning because it equates being excited for prospect of another alternative to X / Twitter and wanting to promote ActivityPub, not to mention sharing your thoughts, ideas, organization, etc. with a wider audience -- with the notion that one is being paid or otherwise financially incentivized to support Threads or ActivityPub.

For Buddies of Budgie, it gets all its donations (a generous 68 USD per month with many one-off contributions as well) from the community, in the public, via our OpenCollective. Not companies, not some masterminds at some secret underground cabal lead by Zzuck and Mosseri. Just other people that like open source and in our case, a desktop environment for Linux.

https://opencollective.com/buddies-of-budgie

The values of Buddies of Budgie are established at https://buddiesofbudgie.org/about/organization and focused around three pillars: Independence, Transparency, and being User-centric.

Folks from all walks of life and all sorts of viewpoints can use our software. They have a legal right under its license. I nor anyone else have to agree with those viewpoints for them to use the software. We aren't getting money for supporting anything but our own software and our own values.

Of course, I have personal views on how we should treat each other, what is / isn't acceptable, and moderation is applied in my community to make sure it is free of hate, repressive or other harmful language, etc.

From a leadership perspective, it is in my best interest to ensure the work that the organization and its members are doing is shared with the wider world. We're proud of that work.

So what's up with the shaming from folks about being excited about Threads? We get to reach more people, it's a fantastic opportunity! Folks need to stop asserting that others have a lack of values for simply wanting to connect with others.

downey,
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@kaidao

Thank you. Since its creation, our instance has always been clear and consistent that our instance values human rights first and foremost, and abuse of those rights by individuals or instance operators is grounds for removal.

We don't ask everyone everywhere to share those same values, only the people we allow into and to remain in our space. There are plenty of places to go for those prioritize other values more highly.

@me

downey,
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@me

That's not what I said in the post you screenshotted and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

In fact the statement points to the same idea: That people's decisions are generally driven by their governing values, either consciously or subconsciously.

I'm not judging others for a value system prioritizing reach over the protection of marginalized people. But I know where I stand personally, & our instance committed to those prioritized values long ago in our community charter.

@kaidao

downey,
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@me

Once again, you are ascribing positions to me that I have not claimed. Please stop.

downey, to Facebook
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:fediverse: pro tip:

When you see someone heralding the arrival of / / to the , look closer at their motivations.

Follow the money (and how they and their work gets funded). Look at their public statements about their values. (Or, more commonly, the lack thereof.)

downey,
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@ThePlant Life is indeed not black and white.

And the field of ethics has long had consensus on the knowledge that one of the biggest drivers of that ambiguity is caused by values conflicts, either within individuals or organizations.

For some people and groups, navigating that conflict is easy. Others may not yet have the clarity needed to know where their priorities lie.

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