o_simardcasanova, Let’s start another #MegaThread, this time on upcoming and new features on #Bluesky.
Megathreads are open ended threads where I share relevant information about a specific topic.
Bluesky will soon have proper DMs, video, better auth (via OAuth), better custom feeds, and even more anti-harassment features.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/05-07-2024-product-roadmap
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atomicpoet, So I just tried opting into #BridgyFed (https://brid.gy/mastodon/@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org).
I found it confusing. For one thing, it asks me for my Mastodon account. Though Akkoma uses Mastodon’s API, not all sites recognize this nor support it—I don’t know if BridgyFed would reject.
Secondly, it’s not clear how to opt in. I think I opted in but there was nothing to say “Congrats! People from #Bluesky can see you!”
Also, how do I receive #Bluesky posts? That’s not apparent to me.
olav, If it helps I'm at least as confused. Hopefully the light of dawn will bring more clarity
cragsand, To enable and opt-in you follow this account: @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy
That will start mirroring and federate your ActivityPub account over the ATProtocol and assign a DID.Then the counterpart for BlueSky you follow:
https://bsky.app/profile/ap.brid.gy
And it will start mirroring your ATProtocol account as an ActivityPub account.AT to AP seems more seamless since AP has more features. Truncating long posts for example looks ugly. The plan is to thread them eventually.
ilumium, I'm still trying to figure out whether #JackDorsey's departure is a good thing or a bad thing for #Bluesky.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/5/24149543/jack-dorsey-gone-bluesky-board
silmathoron, @ilumium why would it be bad?
Tim_Eagon, @silmathoron @ilumium His departure could impact their funding.
mackuba, #Bluesky tip: if you're running some kind of company/org account that's posting to Twitter/Mastodon etc. and you could consider posting to Bluesky too, but you need to integrate it into some existing system, there is a command line tool someone wrote here: https://github.com/mattn/bsky - it should be possible to integrate it with anything that lets you run a shell command. Handles images, link facets etc.
amministratore, Italian In questi giorni è stato aggiornato e migliorato il bridge con bluesky.
Cos'è #bluesky? È una rete decentralizzata come il #fediverso, #Matrix, #XMPP. Tutti sono open source e si parlano fra loro solo con l'uso di Bridge.
BridgyFed permette di federare un singolo account #mastodon con bluesky,
Quindi chi volesse essere seguito da utenti Bluesky basta che segua: @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy
Chi volesse invece rimanere isolato non deve fare nulla, tutti gli account su M1 sono isolati di default!
super_user_do, Italian @amministratore
Ma bluesky non usciva fuori dallo stesso capitalismo di sorveglianza che tanto cirtichiamo?
@bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy @informapirata
informapirata, Italian @super_user_do ni... 😁
In realtà, Bluesky è un'applicazione basata su un protocollo aperto e documentato (AT protocol) e che, benché sia ad oggi incompatibile con il fediverso, consente comunque la federazione tra più server.
Il progetto quindi è molto interessante e presenta un profilo etico accettabile.
Visto che sei su Poliverso, sappi che Friendica supporta già un'estensione per usare Bluesky, ma c'è ancora bisogno di disporre di un account
@amministratore @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy
fromjason, BREAKING: BlueSky announces Skeletor as newest board member; Andreessen Horowitz unavailable.
docpop, Jack Dorsey referred to Twitter, the privately owned company that blocked links to competing social media platforms like Mastodon, as "freedom technology". What a clown.
He also deleted his account on Bluesky announced he's no longer on Bluesky's board of directors. Jack's involvement was one of the reasons I was never excited about #Bluesky, TBH.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/05/jack-dorsey-says-hes-no-longer-on-the-bluesky-board/?guccounter=butts #JackDorsey
docpop, @someguyjg @John yeah, I think that lack of logic is on display here too. He deleted his bluesky account, then signed into twitter to talk about how important it is that we all use open protocols.
ramsey,
futuroprossimo, Italian Jack Dorsey, il co-fondatore di Twitter, volta le spalle alla sua creazione Bluesky per riavvicinarsi alla galassia di X e al suo vecchio amico Elon Musk. È una mossa sorprendente, che scuote l'intero panorama dei social. Questa riconciliazione (con tanto di endorsement a X come "tecnologia di libertà") potrebbe ridisegnare le future dinamiche di potere nel mondo digitale. Che bolle in pentola?
filippodb, Italian @futuroprossimo io faccio riferimento a questo articolo di techcrunch che riassume perfettamente la situazione:
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/05/jack-dorsey-says-hes-no-longer-on-the-bluesky-board/
che si riavvicini a twitter mi
sembra un po' forzato rimane sempre un sostenitore di sistemi decentralizzati e rispettosi della privacy come nostr, bitcoin e tor.Sulle dichiarazione qua in fondo all'articolo è ben riassunto: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/jack-dorsey-calls-x-freedom-140200048.html?guccounter=1
futuroprossimo, Italian @filippodb grazie Filippo! Sempre prezioso. Leggo e aggiorno l'articolo ❤️
StefanMuenz, German Falls jemand Interesse hat, CEO von #BlueSky zu werden - da wäre gerade eine Stelle vakant ;-)
https://www.heise.de/news/Kurznachrichtendienst-Jack-Dorsey-kehrt-Bluesky-den-Ruecken-9708813.html
OchMensch, German @StefanMuenz Upsi...
kubikpixel, German @OchMensch @StefanMuenz nun wurden die news auf DE übersetzt ;)
:mastodon: https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/112392792693472840
mackuba, Mastodon when #Bluesky launches: "it's Jack's social network"
Mastodon when told that Jack is not the CEO and doesn't own or control it: "but he's still on the board"
Mastodon when Jack leaves the board: "well Bluesky is dead now since Jack left"
mackuba, @ku1ik I'm not completely sure if it was his idea to start it or someone else's at Twitter, generally Twitter started the project and he was involved. And they didn't really direct everything themselves, they basically did a research phase, reviewed several teams who applied and picked Jay who had some vision and they liked it. And then she insisted to set it up as a separate company, they agreed, she hired a couple of people, they gave her money and Jack ended up on the board.
mackuba, @ku1ik And I think he was somewhat involved at the beginning as an advisor, but then as they started building the concrete service in 2022/23 he disagreed with a bunch of decisions (we don't know the details), he was overruled, and he got less and less interested.
Then in the summer he occasionally posted on the site, but by then the userbase was strongly left-leaning, anti-capitalist etc. so they basically chased him off the site and he deleted the account 😬
fredbrooker, Czech
mackuba, Czech @fredbrooker Poor younger Jack, it's a bit overwhelming for him and I can imagine 😬
eklektikos, Italian Sempre a proposito di #Bluesky. 😆
Su Dorsey pesa sempre il peccato originale: se avesse investito su #ActivityPub, probabilmente adesso avremmo un #Fediverso molto più avanti. 😁
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/05/jack-dorsey-says-hes-no-longer-on-the-bluesky-board/
filippodb, Italian @eklektikos beh ma questi CEO hanno il vizietto di fare le cose recintate e controllabili altrimenti non sono contenti, e il fatto che non abbia investito nel fediverso è un buon segno, significa che non è scalabile o monetizzabile.
Lo si sapeva da mesi ormai ma ora che c'è l'ufficialità è una brutta botta, prevedo fuggi fuggi generalizzato anche perchè lui era il motivo principale per cui si dava autorevolezza al social, probabilmente faranno la fine di Diaspora.
wjmaggos, Give me some of your favorite accounts we are now able to follow on #BlueSky. please...
vetehinen, @wjmaggos you're probably asking too early, I've seen basically no high profile ones (it is possible to browse the full list of people who are following the bridge bot directly on Bluesky)
wjmaggos,
fromjason, From The Verge: Jack Dorsey says he’s no longer on Bluesky’s board
> There’s seemingly no evidence that Dorsey is off the Bluesky board yet, apart from his post. The company still lists him as a board member, along with its CEO, Jay Graeber, and Jabber / XMPP inventor Jeremie Miller.
Jack just abruptly broke up with #BlueSky on #Twitter?
Also, I was sure his distancing was a strategic move. Guess he really was just throwing a tantrum.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/5/24149543/jack-dorsey-gone-bluesky-board
mvsde, Jack Dorsey is crawling back to Twitter, licking Elon’s boots, calling the site “freedom technology”. In case anyone wondered about Jack’s political alignment: it’s far right, techno-fascist probably.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/5/24149543/jack-dorsey-gone-bluesky-board
paulfoerster,
cellfourteen, If you are a #Bluesky person but you miss your peeps on the #Fediverse / #Mastodon, bridge your account and follow them directly from Bluesky. Simple instructions here (detailed by me):
https://bsky.app/profile/cellfourteen.petertoushkov.eu/post/3krq35aqq5u2e
The other way around is also possible. Detailed instructions here (official documentation):
Transportist, Using #Skybridge to see my Bluesky account in #Ivory to boost fed.bird.gy (#Bridgyfed) allowing me to see #Bluesky posts on #Mastodon, and vice versa. If I post something on Mastodon will it appear on Bluesky, and so appear on Mastodon, and so forth, in a mirror of infinite recursion?
cragsand, @Transportist Seems to only work one way for me although I followed from both sides 🤔 #bridgyfed
https://mastodon.social/@cragsand/112385186081456970
https://bsky.app/profile/cragsand.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy/post/3krp3m3pz3rr2
Transportist, @cragsand it’s a work in progress
mackuba, Good read - interesting comparison of how moderation is handled on the Fediverse and #Bluesky, with Fedi being more like a "network of clubs" and Bluesky putting more emphasis on personal preference vs. closed communities, and what this means in practice: https://www.aendra.com/some-thoughts-on-running-a-moderation-service-that-blocks-screenshots/
mima, I'm not really sure why, but this looks very broken in #Bluesky when bridged via #BridgyFed :ai_woozy2:
I don't think I have used any non-ASCII characters? :satrithink:
https://bsky.app/profile/mima.makai.chaotic.ninja.ap.brid.gy/post/3krnapytegfl2
mjgardner,
mjgardner, I have my first #Bluesky follower ( @sharonahill.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy ) but have yet to see any of my posts there via #BridgyFed
mackuba, The #BlueskyBridge by Snarfed was soft-launched this week - still very alpha and a lot of things don't work, but posts are starting to come through both ways 🙂
Right now you need to follow the bridge to get bridged (the DM-request mechanism isn't finished yet). I'm tracking the bridged accounts (M->B) here: https://blue.mackuba.eu/directory/fedi
luca, Is there a way to have also the list of the original bluesky accounts who opted in ?
mackuba, @luca Not on my site right now, but you could scroll through the followers of the bridge account on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ap.brid.gy/followers
RxBrad, "I'm doing my part!"
RxBrad, @wonkothesane I assume it'll be @jeffgerstmann.com@bsky.brid.gy
He did the steps on his end.. We're just waiting for the bridge to link him up over here.
mackuba, @RxBrad @wonkothesane it seems to take some time (measured in hours), things are still very wonky
mima, Idk why not at this point. The #BridgyFed critics got like everything they wanted. Everything is pretty much #optin. And because of that it's difficult to follow from here the artists I follow at #Bluesky. :satsuki_sadge:
You could say "just ask each one of them to follow you then", but that's easy for you to say. I don't like looking like an unsolicited jerk asking if they want to hear the words of Jesus Christ or something. Which is how I see some of you here on fedi btw. Damn evangelists. No different from techbros or FOSSbros
Now I do think the early stages should be opt-in like a beta as it is right now to iron out the bugs (and there are plenty) before being available fully to the public. But I have a feeling this is never gonna go #optout as it should've been because of the harshness of those ignorant IANALs who do not really understand the #GDPR and other #privacy laws... :reisensweat:
RE: https://fosstodon.org/users/hcj/statuses/112379286314634175
mackuba, @mima This is still an early testing phase (it wasn't even supposed to be announced 😅) - it won't be fully opt-in like now, eventually it should send those request DMs on Mastodon, and probably just follow automatically on Bluesky side, but it's all not ready yet. Snarfed is probably now in kind of putting-out-fires mode ;)
hcj, Is the #Bluesky bridge working?