vetehinen

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noellemitchell, to ai
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

Internet Horrified at AI App for Cloning Dead Family Members

"It's unclear what kind of data Vera AI uses to teach its chatbots. A previous version of the app's Google Play page noted that the app has access to the "contents of your USB storage" including "photos, media, and files.""

https://futurism.com/internet-horrified-app-cloning-family-members

vetehinen,

@noellemitchell They just went ahead and literally copied their business idea from a Black Mirror episode.

philippsteinkrueger, (edited ) to random
@philippsteinkrueger@zirk.us avatar

It's brilliant that @snarfed.org@snarfed.org's bridge is now in beta. But now everyone has to activate their bridge. At the moment it's really hard to find people to follow on Bluesky...

vetehinen,

@philippsteinkrueger Are you looking for Bluesky users to follow from the fediverse? You can see everyone that has enabled the bridge on Bluesky from here https://bsky.app/profile/ap.brid.gy/followers

wjmaggos, to bluesky
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

Give me some of your favorite accounts we are now able to follow on . please...

vetehinen,

@wjmaggos you're probably asking too early, I've seen basically no high profile ones (it is possible to browse the full list of people who are following the bridge bot directly on Bluesky)

elCelio, to mastodon Italian
@elCelio@mastodon.uno avatar

Most followed accounts:

  1. threads.net
  2. threads.net
  3. threads.net
  4. threads.net
  5. threads.net
  6. Mastodon@mastodon.social
  7. threads.net
  8. threads.net
  9. georgetakei@universeodon.com
  10. threads.net
  11. threads.net
  12. Gargron@mastodon.social
  13. threads.net
  14. threads.net
  15. neilhimself@mastodon.social
  16. rbreich@masto.ai
  17. threads.net
  18. threads.net
  19. threads.net
  20. threads.net

Source:
https://most-followed-mastodon-accounts.stefanhayden.com/

video/mp4

vetehinen,

@elCelio well the name of the list is obviously outdated (and was not really accurate to begin with since listed accounts even outside of threads are not all mastodon) but the good thing is that there's now all these big threads accounts that we can follow without having to use threads. I guess it also speaks for how large the threads userbase unfortunately is in comparison.

tokyo_0, to meta
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

A lot of people have insisted isn't getting involved with the to embrace, extend and extinguish it...

... but even before fully implementing Fediverse interoperability in they're already talking openly about changing its protocols to add features like monetization. 🤔

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/

Text in a screenshot reads as follows: McCue riffed on the idea that fediverse users could become creators where some of their content became available to subscribers only, similar to how Patreon works. For instance, fediverse advocate and co-editor of ActivityPub Evan Prodromou created a paid Mastodon account (@evanplus) that users could subscribe to for $5 per month to gain access. If he’s on board with paid content, surely others would follow. Cottle agreed that the model could work with the fediverse, too. He additionally suggested there are ways the fediverse could monetize beyond donations, which is what often powers various efforts today, like Mastodon. Cottle said someone might even make a fediverse experience that consumers would pay for, the way some fediverse client apps are paid today.

vetehinen,

@tokyo_0 it seems like the quote post controls are probably something they've been coordinating with Mastodon, actually. I think it was @tchambers I saw say first that a very similar feature is coming for Mastodon and having followed the quote post discussions in the issue queues for Mastodon a bit I know these kinds of controls were extensively discussed there as a requirement for adding QPs in the past.

mackuba, to bluesky
@mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

So apparently we've hit that 30% chance after all and didn't die before they allowed a bridge to run, who'd have guessed? 🤔

Somebody plz ping Evan about this - I'm not on Threads, I don't like commercial social media platforms 😈

vetehinen,

@mackuba what's your point? guessing this isn't that recent and I'm not sure 30% was a particularly unrealistic prediction considering most startups fail and we've already seen multiple twitter replacements fail too.

Good on Bluesky not having run out of money yet but I certainly don't think they've yet really found a good way to monetize or a big enough userbase so the clock is absolutely still ticking on that VC money requiring them to put up or shut it.

vetehinen,

@mackuba also, I'm sure you know @evan has a non-threads fediverse account too even though he happened to post that message to threads so there is no need to ping him on threads only.

aral, to mastodon
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Co-founder of Twitter joins new Mastodon board of directors. Right, so federating with Threads wasn’t a mistake. This is just the direction Mastodon is going. Oh, well. Another Mozilla emerges.

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2024/04/mastodon-forms-new-u.s.-non-profit/

vetehinen,

@FinchHaven @aral what on earth makes you say they are raking in shit tons of money? That doesn't sound too likely for a team with the grand total of two full-time deveopers (to be increased to three now) so do you have something to back that with?

sharan, to Bulgaria
@sharan@metalhead.club avatar

The Balkan web community is still pretty active on Twitter. Some of them tried to go to Bluesky, but it didn't work.

On the other hand, 90% of the community would be banned on Fediverse because of their retrograde, right-wing stances.

And it should stay that way.

vetehinen,

@sharan what's the reason people with such politics want to leave Xitter?

maegul, (edited ) to ghost
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

I think the and federations pose interesting questions about what platforms can and should be.

Do we actually want blogs and feeds of blogs folded into a mastodon/microblog social feed?

Do we want to read and comment on blogs on mastodon?

Do we want all the diversity of the fediverse fed into a single platform's UI and hope that it works well?

Are we worried that some choices by our platform or instance admin might hinder this process?

I'm rather skeptical.

1/

vetehinen,

@Loukas @maegul I don't really see the issue with Lemmy being that the platforms are incompatible. It's more that there are solvable issues with the way they interoperate that have not been addressed and make the experience poor.

vetehinen,

@Loukas the main issues I've found with it:

  • the way a #Lemmy community just shows up as boosts of all posts and replies to them is just not a great way to represent them here, I believe there are multiple ways this experience could be improved from either side. Already somewhat better with platforms/clients that always show the parent post that is being replied to

  • in order to post (a reply) to a Lemmy community from #Mastodon (etc.) you need to know you have to mention the community by name which doesn't happen automatically

  • for a top-level post in to a community there are formatting rules like making the first line of the content the title

  • Lemmy content discoverability is poor on Mastodon because hashtags aren't really a thing for it

Not all of these have to be fixed to make federation useful and to me it doesn't seem like the biggest issues are insurmountable at all... do you have others in mind or have reasons why these cannot be improved?

@maegul

vetehinen,

@Loukas Where we differ is that I don't think the issue is that it can't be usefully represented on here, just that it currently isn't. Why do you think it can't rather than isn't? @maegul

vetehinen,

@Loukas @maegul well for me it could be as trivial as just being able to filter the replies from the top level posts when looking at a group's feed. Much more involved plans have also been drafted though, like this one: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/19059

ahimsa_pdx, to twitter
@ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social avatar

I'm surprised to see so many folks still post links to X/twitter threads. (not common here but on other platforms/forums)

They obviously don't care about moral/ethical issues with X, but they also must not realize access to threaded replies is restricted to logged in users!

Many folks deleted their accounts long ago (🙋🏻‍♀️) & Nitter no longer works (right?) so I don't know how to see more than the first post of any X thread.

So why share links to X threads? 🤷🏻‍♀️

#X

vetehinen,

@ahimsa_pdx they definitely let you see more than X but threads actually prompts you to log in to see all replies so it's limited. Bluesky doesn't though... except maybe if the user has requested not to be public and even then there's always a way around it since everything on Bluesky has to be public.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

Barack Obama (@barackobama) is on the Fediverse!

How cool is that?!

@fediversenews

vetehinen,

@atomicpoet @barney @fediversenews Worth noting mas.to admin recently announced their plan is to move from defederatin to just limiting threads.net: https://mas.to/@trumpet/112212159528724033

itsfoss, to random
@itsfoss@mastodon.social avatar

Time to try something different, Bluesky or Mastodon? What's your pick?

https://itsfoss.com/bluesky-vs-mastodon/

vetehinen,

@itsfoss a better question would be Bluesky or the fediverse. The fediverse is many more platforms besides Mastodon.

Linux_in_a_Bit, to random
@Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online avatar

I've been kinda neutral about Threads joining the Fediverse so far, but seeing how they treat usability from the Fediverse side, it's clear there is at least some malicious intent. :blobcatthink:

vetehinen,

@Linux_in_a_Bit are you referring to the opt-in or what?

"Worshippers of Cthulhu" - Lovecraftian city builder

So, I saw new game - https://store.epicgames.com/pl/p/worshippers-of-cthulhu-0fd3a2?fbclid=IwAR3yt_mwO1ju5HEInJyte-ZWIkPiB7NQ81BxplTniFVINZfXhd0TkXRpSCU_aem_AWnENz3wLNsMYhhDXZrM9Y3xy50ON-bUyCzadulNGpPG4J9ks6ZbjrCduTqtdw7N4K_37i2M9xZqB_Jv72klpg85 . It looks very interesting. I am not sure if there were any strategy game based on...

vetehinen,

only ones I can think of are some pretty simple Lovecraft-themed games with XCOM-style turn-based tactical gameplay

@Games

davemark, to mastodon
@davemark@mastodon.social avatar

I am a fan of BlueSky, in general, but the low character limit stops me from posting stuff I've written for Mastodon and Threads.

Mastodon's limit is 500 characters. That's PLENTY. Threads is close to that.

BlueSky's limit is 300 characters. That's too low, compared to the freedom of the other two.

Any chance this changes?

vetehinen,

@peterbutler @davemark if you find the default character limit on Mastodon to be overly restrictive you can just go to an instance that has increased it, there are ones with over 10k characters allowed per post. You'll also find higher limits on non-Mastodon instances.

schizanon, to mastodon
@schizanon@mas.to avatar

@trumpet please stop blocking threads so that I can follow and boost @POTUS

This policy of blocking entire instances simply because you don't like who runs them is silly and detrimental to the Fediverse not to mention our democracy.

vetehinen,

@schizanon @trumpet we're starting to see why the decision to block threads is a difficult one once federation is actually widespread. Many accounts people find important to have access to get blocked when it is done at the instance level. It was definitely smart for to move on this early since a decision that's already been made is harder to reverse.

The good news is that you can always migrate if the instance doesn't make the choices you want.

box464, to random
@box464@mastodon.social avatar

Opinion: I think Threads is going to end up offering “Threads only” public posts if you are connected to the fediverse. In other words, yes, you can enable fedi share on your account, but then decide on a per post basis if you want it federated.

Hometown and some Forkeys already have a local only posts feature.

The question is…will posts federate by default?

vetehinen,

@box464 that is definitely possible since I already saw a Threads user suggest this. Threads lets you limit who can reply to a post so some users find it problematic there that this isn't possible with the Fediverse integration. Limiting to local on an individual post level would allow them to keep Fedi sharing on while also using the feature Threads has. That said, since it is impossible to really limit who can comment a post if it is public I'd rather see something that would offer implementation of this on the fediverse even if it isn't foolproof.

ThePlant, to random
@ThePlant@mastodon.social avatar

On Threads I posted about why people should enable fediverse integration...

One of the replies was "why are you cosplaying as a linkedin influencer?"

🙃

vetehinen,

@ThePlant guess they didn't really know much about what you were talking about

BeAware, to threads
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

Well, it's only been a few days since Threads announced the ability to turn on Fediverse integration, but I can't help but feel disappointed with the lack of users actually turning it on as of yet...

My instance only knows about 250-300 accounts that have turned on Federation. I know this isn't nearly the full list, but it's obviously going to be limited because of "opt-in" which goes against ActivityPub to the core...😬 🤦‍♂️

vetehinen,

@BeAware I think it's too early to be disappointed but I'd definitely like to see more. People with accounts need to go do some advocacy to get more people to enable it I guess. I also saw something about the option not being there for some big accounts despite the correct region, but don't know any specifics so might not be anything there.

scottjenson, to gaming
@scottjenson@social.coop avatar

Walking past a street cafe in Lecce, Italy at night. I passed these kids at 8pm and again 30 minutes later when I was coming back. There were going at it hard. Is this the future of ?

vetehinen,

@breadbin @scottjenson AR/VR is just getting started. Quest is doing quite well in fact and I think one key thing holding it back for now is simply how cumbersome the wearable hardware is but we've already seen it get better in that regard and it will continue to.

bdrell, to random

People sharing with the Fediverse, reply here and tag Fediverse Threads please!

vetehinen,

@BeAware @chrismessina @mjgardner @chris they show up as tags for me on sharkey but not on mastodon

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