Mer__edith, to random
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world avatar

Where I speak some advantages Signal has over the bigger richer rest of tech:

“We don’t have to be full of shit. We’re not a surveillance company. I’m not trying to pretend Facebook is good. I don’t have to toe a party line that is divorced from reality”

https://restofworld.org/2023/signal-president-meredith-whittaker-messaing-privacy/

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@anarchopunk_girl @fla @Mer__edith @signalapp

also doesn't provide value to me beyond what + & + /MIME can offer for decades now.

Instead it creates shitty dependencies to - that have no legitimate reason to exist and their unwillingness to allow makes it worse than a default installation in terms of , , & .
https://zulip.com/why-zulip/

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@jabberati @anarchopunk_girl @fla @Mer__edith @signalapp I mean, (with or /MIME] as standard exists for decades and it can be used privacy-friendly via @torproject...

Problem is just that are lazy and never get forced to learn anything.

jplebreton, to random
@jplebreton@mastodon.social avatar

Was reminded recently that Discord has taken nearly $1 billion in VC cash: https://tracxn.com/d/companies/discord/__5rlLgsamoGCjo5gATenpy383J_jyBToAQkMl2B_f99w
No judgment if you've already built a community there, but everyone really needs to treat it as a ticking time bomb. It's already failed its users many times over; it's just a question of when those failures will escalate beyond even the most indifferent user's tolerance. Every community deserves better. Good alternatives are a survival imperative.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@jplebreton also their are inacceptable and I urge everyone to give alternatives a try, ranging from and espechally to , , and depending on the workflows and needs.

NOONE IS FORVED ONTO !

Imho it's just a combination of all the bad things from , , and woth no redeeming qualities.

You might just use , , + or even instead!!!

pressgirlk, to Signal

Hell yeah @signalapp :party_parrot: :party_parrot:
Signal users will now be able to edit messages (very similar to how the edit feature works on @Mastodon ) 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@pressgirlk @signalapp @Mastodon so basically a feature + always had...

Nah, I'm not gonna use any & anytime soon...

karson777, to random
@karson777@mstdn.starnix.network avatar

if the fedi has some good xmpp / jabber group chats let me know

i like the technology but don't know anyone who uses it :sadlinux:​

enno, to random German
@enno@nafo.army avatar

Ich suche eine App, welche meine Ergüsse Parallel auf Twitter, Mastodon, Post, Bluesky und Threads postet und die Antworten sortiert. Und dann bitte einen Messanger für WA, Signal, Telegram, iMessage, Threema, ...

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@floe @enno @torproject @signalapp ach ja, versucht dieselbe |e Nummer...
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111189592833921904

Genauso wie in der @EU_Commission ...

Also warum sollte irgendwer nutzen?

Firmenkommunikation muss archiviert werden, also geht faktisch nur etwas das dies kann - sei es (welches nutzt) oder (als self-hosted oder - Variante)...

Der Rest wird langfristig + bzw. XMPP+/MIME lernen müssen...

rail, to Matrix

I think the true sign of an apocalypse being near will be the creation of actually decent and feature-rich client

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@rail Why anyone would have demand for that in lieu of + , and is beyond me but it's always good to have more options I guess...

kobayashi90, to FreeSpeech

So they admitted that their Goal is not Free Speech at all, not gonna lie thats what this reply says in my Eyes. Sad to say that you lost my Trust.

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kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@kobayashi90 So instead of @signalapp just use + and with /MIME encryption and you're good to go.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@kobayashi90 @signalapp @tfunken does support multiple devices and allows distinguishing and managing them...

OFC also supports /MIME besides ...

starshine, to random
@starshine@woem.space avatar

oh don’t worry, discord won’t shut down. it will just gradually enshittify more and more as it keeps trying to make more money as the vc funds dry up, eventually being bought by a large corporation looking to sell the user data for a nice profit.

then once it gets bad enough, another centralized, proprietary platform will pop up that promises to be slightly better than discord (at least, better than discord after its gradual decline), people will move to it in droves, and the cycle will start all over again

discord will continue to stick around for a couple more years after that, until the company that bought it decides it’s not worth running anymore and unceremoniously shuts it down, destroying over a decade worth of people’s memories in the process

:woem:

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@starshine Just like amd and ...

Maybe it's time people start considering actual alternatives lile ( https://zulip.com ) and as well as +...

MagicLike, to Signal
@MagicLike@mstdn.social avatar

Hey there - would you be so kind and check out my feature request for Signal Desktop "Allow multiple accounts to be linked to one Desktop installation (/linked device)", especially if you feel the same? :blobfoxpleading:
Ofc you don't have to, but the thread stalled a bit lately... :blobcathearthug:

:boost_requested:

https://community.signalusers.org/t/allow-multiple-accounts-to-be-linked-to-one-desktop-installation-linked-device/55604?u=magiclike

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@MagicLike Have you heard of + ?

Because that does everythin that @signalapp promises without literally doxxing yourself with a phone number or having to trust their / bs....

mburr, to fediverse

Does the have a federated answer to any of the following?

  • Signatures for my outgoing messages? (outside of the post's text itself)
  • Real-time group chat (discord)
  • Video "hangouts" (zoom, skype ...hangouts [google])
  • Privacy (signal, telegram)
  • or anything that's in use

It looks like "youtube" is covered already, but any about that is appreciated. The knowledge about what's best or hot at any time is also federated 😕

marqle,

@mburr

I would not trust Telegram for

I'd choose or or maybe with

the latter could be incorporated and it was talked of at one point. It would also fulfil the function and with room to boot

jabberati, to Meme
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

A friend just sent me this.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@jabberati

That's why I prefer 🐂 ( for ) over . PFS? No thanks!

ilyess, to Signal
@ilyess@mastodon.online avatar

introduces a new quantum-resistant key agreement protocol called PQXDH.

"With this upgrade, we are adding a layer of protection against the threat of a quantum computer being built in the future that is powerful enough to break current encryption standards"

https://signal.org/blog/pqxdh/

Natanox,
@Natanox@chaos.social avatar

@ilyess Wonder whether there will be some kind of implementation of this in 's .

Billie, to iOS
@Billie@social.tchncs.de avatar

What is a good for / ?

  • must support

  • must receive messages reliably (and not only once you open the app)

  • preferably

Suggestions?

Your reply might safe some kids from joining aka . 😉

netzpolitik_feed, to random German
@netzpolitik_feed@chaos.social avatar

Der Digital Markets Act der EU soll sicherstellen, dass große IT-Firmen ihre Marktmacht gegenüber anderen nicht unfair ausnutzen. Nun hat die EU-Kommission 6 Firmen zu "Gatekeepern" erklärt. Ein IT-Riese glänzt durch Abwesenheit. https://netzpolitik.org/2023/digitale-gatekeeper-einer-fehlt-im-club-der-grossen/

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@Natanox @netzpolitik_feed

Da eine proprietäre / - Lsung ist würde ich denen weniger vertrauen als ich auf dem Rücken liegen senkrecht pissen kann ohne nass zu werden.

+ und /MIME sind interoperabel, sicher und schnell...

Weil ich hab' auch binnen 5 Minuten gezeigt wie diese das auf MonoclesChat u.ä. einrichten können!

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@Natanox @Pabamiti @nomain @netzpolitik_feed @signalapp da nicht möglich ist UND dank kein wirtschaftlich möglich ist halte ich das für ne reine Blendtaktik.
Da keine |en Builds kann keiner garantieren dass das veröffentlichte auch tatsächlich läuft - schon garnicht in deren -!

Wenn wirklich was daran läge sicher zu sein wären diese so dezentral wie @torproject / und - bzw. /MIME als Standards!

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@Pabamiti @Natanox @nomain @netzpolitik_feed Und selbst ist wegen der Zentralisierung unsicher, weil da reicht es einfach den Traffic zu deren Systemen aufzuzeichnen ..

Nur kompett dezentralisierte Systeme die komplett -fähig sind ( mit PGP/MIME & -) können sicher sein, wenn diese korrekt aufgesetzt und konfiguriert sind - bei allen Beteiligten.

neustradamus, to random
@neustradamus@mastodon.social avatar
RTP, to news
@RTP@fosstodon.org avatar

Don't Submit Personal Calls / Data / Biometrics To AI Training (Empowering Abuse Potential, Disempowering End Users) For Video Calls

AI Training Can Also Be A Fancy Way Of Saying "Putting You Under Surveillance"

Instead, Use Signal / Session / XMPP + PGP / OMEMO / Jitsi

https://stackdiary.com/zoom-terms-now-allow-training-ai-on-user-content-with-no-opt-out/

Sheril, to mastodon
@Sheril@mastodon.social avatar

I see a lot of posts here about why the other social media platforms are terrible & is the one to rule them all*.

Personally, Mastodon is my favorite & I prefer the with decentralized servers & open source standards.

But I also don’t mind coexisting with the others. Rather, I think it’s a good thing. All of us should settle in where we feel comfortable & find community.

  • Overstatement, but a Tolkien reference always seems appropriate.
marqle,

@lostpanda @Brendanjones @zayathejew @Sheril

Well allows encrypted and unencrypted rooms - your choice. And to be fair so did XMPP before messed it up.

still allows rooms to be encrypted with if I remember - and there are some clients that allow

and both allow encrypted rooms in XMPP. Matrix just makes it easier.

Even had but not many people used it. Encrypted chat rooms are very old.

gamingonlinux, to random
@gamingonlinux@mastodon.social avatar

omg so slow zzz

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@bison - ( & ) would be my decison since there are a shitload of accessible servers AND it's fully since you're doing of the !

So even if the maintainers of said servers and/or FLOSS'd clients get held at gunpoint, they can't do ...
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv

autonomysolidarity, to random German
@autonomysolidarity@todon.eu avatar

1/2
Das 40,00€ teurer gewordene Nachfolgeticket zum 9-Euro-Ticket soll Daten melken. Zwar solle das Ticket übergangsweise nicht nur für Smartphones erhältlich sein sondern auch auf Chip-Karten und kurzzeitig auf Papier mit QR-Code, aber wichtig scheint es den Regierenden vor allem anderen, dass mit dem 49€-Ticket Echtzeit-Verkehrsdaten erhoben werden können.

Positiv klingt zunächst: "Es werde nicht gespeichert, wer von A nach B fährt, sondern nur, wie stark die Verkehrsmittel ausgelastet sind. Für die Fahrgäste könnte das ein Nutzen sein, weil die Verkehrsunternehmen so für ausreichend Kapazitäten sorgen könnten."

Allerdings: Das Ticket wird wohl nur als Abo personalisiert erworben werden können, so dass darüber anfallende Personendaten zukünftig schnell integriert werden könnten. Mit Hinblick auf den aktuellen massiven Ausbau des Überwachungsstaats und der Kontrollgesellschaft in Deutschland und der EU (digitale Personenkennziffer/RegMod, Chatkontrolle, Identifizierungspflicht, Biometrie, eIDAS uvm) ist es doch auch gar nicht die Frage ob, sondern nur wann und mit welchem Vorwand (Anschläge, Pandemie, Jugendschutz, Wahlkampf) personalisierte Datenerfassung und Polizeizugriffe kommen werden, sobald die digitale Kontrollinfrastruktur erst einmal errichtet wurde.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@autonomysolidarity

  1. Alle vollverschlüsseln!
  2. Keine |ed nutzen [, ].
  3. Alle korrekt Ende-zu-Ende verschlüsseln PGP/MIME für [ & - für ]
  4. Sichere Passwürter nutzen!
  5. Passwordmanager nutzen um sichere Passwörter zu sichern!

Das ist so simpel dass ich das bei diversen deployed hab mit 5-15min Einarbeitung der User*innen.

jz, to Signal
@jz@mamot.fr avatar

Problems we are having with :

  • It is and will remain centralized (clear strategy of not federating servers)
  • It requires strong identifiers/selectors (phone#) to use
  • Author disallows distribution by anyone but Google, although free/libre
  • It keeps pushing away verification of fingerprint in interface
  • It relies on Google+Amazon infrastructure
  • Its funding is shady (OTF = Radio Free Asia = USG)

= clearly unethical choices, unjustifiable by accessibility or technological reasons.

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@jz also @signalapp 's and as well as to enforce (as they collect |s) is inherently bad.

Thus + is still the best option!

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@jz @nblr Eeyupp...

All shit that or any other + or /MIME - compatible client just doesn't do.

@signalapp in my eyes is at best begging to be infiltrated like if not outright a like !

DON'T USE IT!
DON'T ADVOCATE FOR IT!
TELL OTHERS TO DO THE SAME!
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110864976153746039

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