@willoremus Same! I'm quite keen to try #Bluesky when I can get hold of an invite code, but I gather it's still very early on and a bit rough around the edges?
Bluesky is saying that torture and self-harm posts are acceptable. That's the end of Bluesky as far as I'm concerned. They don't have a clue what they're letting themselves in for.
There's one main thing I like about #BlueSky, #Nostr, #Cwtch, and the in-development P2P-ified #Matrix over #ActivityPub and Matrix as they're generally deployed now: your ID doesn't depend on DNS.
I've not been in the Fediverse very long, but I've already seen people lose their entire social graph because an admin unilaterally took down an instance. When you tie your identity to DNS, you're at the mercy of the domain owner and every point of control over the DNS as a whole, including the court systems in every authoritarian jurisdiction. Not your keys, not your identity.
I like the admins of my instance here, but I see the toll it takes on them running it even with the community's contributions. It's a lot of pressure and a lot of power to have that much control over identity and trust for your users.
I don't think we have to wholesale move to other protocols, though. The beauty of open networks is the freedom to build bridges. When people do migrate between them, it can and should be as smooth as migrating between ActivityPub instances in the happy path, and remain fully interoperable.
Tell me I'm not the only one that thinks 'BlueSky' sounds like the sterilized false utopian trap all the movies and TV shows have been warning us about.
Like, there's something super evil going on deep in that building, right?
It annoys me when they describe #Bluesky as decentralised. It currently isn't. It's invite-only. There's only one app. Only one org. There's a protocol, but it isn't currently interoperable with anything. Just please stop. Please don't say it's decentralised until it is.
Truth is nobody knows how to build a good social network. #mastodon isn’t perfect, and obv isn’t for everybody. No wonder new attempts at (presumably) novel social network architectures attracts interest. #bluesky
I'm interested in exploring development of AT Protocol client apps, but have no access to BlueSky yet (running my own isolated server not really helpful here either).
If anyone does have a spare invite that be greatly appreciated! #bluesky
I bring impressions and takes from 12 hours occasionally glancing at #bluesky social and reading about the tech
The #federation concept and approach to personal data / profile portability and security is neat. I’ll be interested to see how that progresses in practice over the next months and year, and how much cross pollination there ends up being between #fedi / #activitypub and #bsky / #atproto
And then, unfortunately, at the moment there’s an.. oddly designed feature that enables some people to be total sleezeballs and rack up thousands / 10s of thousands of follows (yes! I saw an account with >40k follows!), in what I can only guess is a vain attempt at creating an influence-y social fiefdom early in the vacuum with few heavy hitters. I find it really distasteful and don’t plan on touching bsky until there’s a mitigation.
Call me a romantic, but I like to feel like I’m in a small community and sorta get to “know” the people following me? And have others discover me organically?
If #bluesky and the #atprotocol fail to fulfill their promises, I predict there will be another. And another after that one. All funded and pushed by rich bastards with lots of connections. And we little people who have pushed the #fediverse for years will all be expected to give them our attention and not be critical. All while this confusion slows adoption of #ActivityPub by journalists and governments and developers and the decentralization moment passes yet again.
#twitter and #twittermigation types have been living through the hellscape resulting from the implosion of moderation on twitter, but want to join a less moderated, hate speech tolerant #bluesky ?
Because the onboarding process is better?
Yes I read the protocol spec. To say moderation is an distributed open protocol as a rebuttal is a really bad joke. It's not even at the napkin sketch level yet.
so (decentralized?) #bluesky rolled out an iOS app before they added a second server, right after #substack rolled out notes and media companies started talking about leaving Twitter. it exists to serve Twitter and is a delaying tactic against the #fediverse. same with #nostr.
what we're building here is a threat to all entrenched wealth and power. it will remove all unearned influence over our attention. it enables people power like the world has never seen before. they should be afraid.
Seeing a lot of people curious about #BlueSky. I'm all for trying new sites, but two things to keep in mind about this one: it can't federate with #Mastodon any other platforms in the Fediverse, and...its owner, Jack Dorsey, was not much better than Musk in allowing Twitter to be overrun with MAGA trolls and disinformation. Maybe it won't be like that, but I'm not hopeful given his track record at the bird site.
Not thst #bluesky is complete trash. It’s just not the answer.
I have issues with its existence - I see it as the linked in version of Twitter, rather than a true contender.
Some issues:
it is still corporate run. Yes that expands resources.
but that also includes the ability to quash dissenting opinions, which right now under the corporate eye are “thoughts that are left of American center.”
So Bluesky has its first outright Nazi member and not a real strategy on how to handle that. You can’t block users, only mute them so it leaves the community in danger that you can’t outright stop that user from seeing you.
This is where these systems fail, when they are so scared of censorship they put users in danger.