Jack Dorsey enthusiastically co-signed the deal that betrayed 200 million Twitter users and handed their accounts over to a fucking right wing egomaniacal billionaire. You’ll have to excuse me if I’m not eager to sign up for another one of this dude’s schemes.
So Bluesky has its first outright Nazi member and not a real strategy on how to handle that. You can’t block users, only mute them so it leaves the community in danger that you can’t outright stop that user from seeing you.
This is where these systems fail, when they are so scared of censorship they put users in danger.
@danarel peeps you’re grown ups. You also are well aware that #Bluesky is still an early work in progress. If you figured out this happened, then you must have taken the time to also read the replies / separate posts on moderation is still WIP and landing in the next few weeks. One of the reasons it’s still invite only.
That said the platforms is powered by people, it was only bound to happen at some point.
But at least stay fair and be better than this to bring down others for your own fun.
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@mastodonmigration the first thing to do when you write something that might put somebody in a bad light is to be well informed.
This topic has already been discussed on #Bluesky, the intent was that they could show promotional images, like in the App Store, without getting into problems.
The CEO of Bluesky, Jay, responded and welcomed further input to revise portions of the text.
It’s okay to be sharp on things, but make sure you do it with a honest intentions. And make sure to reach out.
@evan While I'm not inherently against competing protocols, it's really hard to see BlueSky as anything other than an attempt to (a) keep the fediverse from succeeding, and (b) taking over a "growing market".
Us, continuing to go down the path of centralization round a brand (#mastodon) is a disaster for the #Fediverse and the danger of the irrelevance of Mastodon itself as it then has no clear advantage over #dotcons masked #bluesky and #Nostr - who can play the tech is better card.
I feel like I've largely rebuilt the community I had on Twitter over here on #Mastodon and am just not interested in #BlueSky right now. I'm honestly disappointed that they deliberately chose not to have #ActivityPub compatibility. Also, I don't really trust Jack, either. He very intentionally pushed for Elon taking over Twitter. Going to BlueSky seems sort of like falling for your ex again because they changed their name from Brianna to Bri and started wearing a leather jacket.
@Whizanth@gmate8 You're correct that #ATProto itself doesn't use crypto but that doesn't mean it isn't a planned thing for #BlueSky itself. Considering Jack is behind it and largely funded it with bitcoin, it's not hard to connect those dots.
Let's also not forget that #BlueSky and #Nostr are still a Hail Mary pass attempt at finding a way to keep #crypto going. Instead of $8/mo for a blue check, you can drop some crypto. Is this really a better vision for the future of social media?
There seems to be a growing amount of uninformed, negative posts on #Mastodon about #Bluesky.
It’s unfortunate that a platform which believes is populated by open minded people do not gather information themselves to form a balanced opinion, but rather jump on the “echo chamber” bandwagon instead.
Kind of reminds me of behavioral patterns on #Twitter. Remember it’s not the platform, but what you bring with you that matters.
But for everything there is a price. I think #BlueskySocial makes a bit more of a balance between #Twitter and Mastodon’s spartan approach. Including algorithms, search, where it’s usefulness for discoverability will also have a another side of the coin.
In the end the user decides though, as long as it’s well informed.
@alastor8472 Sure, there are a lot of concerns about minor issues with an app in its beta phase that are being overblown. That always happens with new products, #ActivityPub clients included. A lot of those minor issues will surely be resolved and don't maybe deserve too much attention.
But there is also a growing amount of informed, realistic posts about fundamental issues with #BlueSky and the #ATProtocol. Issues that will likely not be resolved as they are intentional design choices baked in.
Everyone complained about Dorsey and his handling of Twitter back in the day. Why do folks seem so eager to jump on BlueSky rather than Mastodon lately? 🤔
@thomasareed@erickolb That’s a bit generic. I have not studied in detail yet the promise #bluesky makes, but its decentralized components plus the plug and play algorithms seem rather specific adjustments to the original model that you consider a failure. I’ll eventually make up my own mind on this but the paradigm is not the same in an obvious manner.
Admittedly, I am skeptical of Bluesky. Mostly because I have seen people like Jack Dorsey churn out reinventions of the wheel time and time again, only resulting in products that are harder to use, more obtuse, combative to poor people, and built with a single point of failure (an oracle or something).
Like, everyone is bullish on this now, but everyone seems to forget that Dorsey owns a crypto exchange. This shit is going to be powered by crypto at some point.
@msprout#BlueSky will have a very quick rise and then flame out like an asteroid in low orbit, but if it at least enables a bunch of people to get of the bird site that might be worth it
My favourite thing about #Bluesky is that it uses domains as usernames, because it means there's absolutely no reason for me to get in early to register a good one.
Anyone know if there is a tool to find your #Mastodon followers/following that’s on #BlueSky? Like how we had when we moved from that other site to here?
#Bluesky seems interesting but the number of bots this early into development is really concerning. Shouldn’t the invite-only signup process be doing more to curb this?
All these talk about #BlueSky and complaints about #Mastodon this, #ActivityPub that, #Fediverse this, and #Decentralisation that, are mostly questionable(?) since many haven't seriously looked around the fediverse. It's like saying burgers are bad because you've tasted McDonald's yet there are better burgers from #Jollibee.
The problem stems from the fediverse ending up unofficially represented by a very limited-feature software and most are not willing to do their due diligence (one would think they'll check out the forks at least). Before championing about the new kid on the block, before claiming that the fediverse is this and that, look around first.
What you've known as the fediverse, so far, is only based on what happens to be the software with the least feature set. Mainline Mastodon will get better, but it is what it is currently, as far as comparison with similar fediverse projects.
No one is saying you are not allowed to complain, just look around first before you make claims about the fediverse.
Also, no one is saying #ATP shouldn't exist. By all means develop it! Innovation and improvements come from seeing ideas come to fruition instead of staying as theories. Having different branches of development is better than getting stuck in one particular way of doing things, or line of thinking. It's all good and I think anyone will agree it is much welcomed.
Here's a #challenge: Since you have time to research a non-fediverse network, why don't you explore what the fediverse really has to offer, with the same effort and enthusiasm? Mastodon is not the fediverse, so you can not judge the fediverse based on it. That's like saying China is Asia, and you judge Asians because of mainland China.
Take the challenge, then publish the results of your journey. Good evening, and Shalom!