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atomicpoet, to fediverse
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

It’s okay to stick with Mastodon.

is just a different way to be on the Fediverse.

Ultimately, Mastodon and Calckey can still talk to each other through .

Think of all the social media software that doesn’t allow conversation outside its walled garden!

philsherry,

@weirdwriter @atomicpoet @oliphant It’s not just on here, it’s developers everywhere. But I’m sure you’re well aware of this.

philsherry,

@weirdwriter @atomicpoet @oliphant As a full-time accessibility engineer, I leave GAAD to the tourists. I do the work all year round, and also poke my beak into things that aren’t necessarily my business but I can see issues that clearly need fixing.

I grew up with two brothers, but I only have one these days. One had conal dystrophy and was almost fully blind when he gave up on life. This work is personal for me.

atomicpoet, (edited ) to fediverse
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Just heard a rumour that https://yarn.social is slowly rolling out support for .

https://yarn.social is a decentralised and self-hosted social media platform based on the Twtxt format that has a privacy-first focus.

To find out what it looks like, here's an example of a yarn server:

https://twtxt.net

It's interesting to watch how other decentralized social networks adopt .

@fediversenews

pbaesse,
@pbaesse@ursal.zone avatar
ocdtrekkie,
@ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet It's actually been there for a while, I'm friends with the developer. But the model and approach of Yarn is a bit different, so there's both technical and social differences in the connection.

For example, Twtxt users tend to practice "slow social", Yarn doesn't implement notifications, by choice.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

A server was just launched for the Greater Boston area! Check it out:

https://bostonsocial.online/

If you want to give the New York Yankees some grief, this might be your home in the Fediverse!

@fediversenews

og,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Boston stand up !!!

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@wx1g @fediversenews Devs are working really hard on improving accessibility. Keyboard navigation is one feature they’re working hard on.

atomicpoet, to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

It’s pretty neat to hop on over to https://infosec.town and see a whole new community of people discover for the first time.

If you’re coming from Mastodon, the difference can be shocking!

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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I didn’t see this coming, but I’m pleased!

@jerry just announced that the infosec community now has their own server! You can join it here:

https://infosec.town/

To all infosec friends, welcome aboard the train!

Choo choo 🚂

FROM: https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/110329454041203297

@fediversenews

jerry,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews I have some learning to do on calckey - that's for sure. Thanks for creating calckey!

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@jerry @atomicpoet @fediversenews @kainoa we should really be thanking @syuilo since they are the one whos been working non stop on Misskey (that Calckey is a fork of) for like over 10 years now?

atomicpoet, (edited ) to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

REMINDER: If you see abuse, don’t boost it. Report it instead.

Boosting creates more reach for the initial abuse, which makes it all the more worse.

Also, please give moderators a chance to respond to reports. During times you’re active on the Fediverse, some of us are literally sleeping 😴

dEto,

@atomicpoet Its sad that some weird people instead of responding to the topic of discussion leave it,and begin to attack & threaten people they dont agree with instead.

I understand some people may be on smoke or drugs or just naturally hostile/violent in real life, but why bring that on or why even join it if you cant obey the simple rule of "do not harass or attack other users" on most servers?

And most users just keep quiet on seeing such abusive behaviour, weird again.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@doug This is one reason CW are being brought to quotes, at least with Calckey.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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Well, just confirmed that bans on @fediversenews work as they should.

A troll just tried to post here.

Their troll post doesn't display on @fediversenews, nor is their post boosted by the Group.

Even better, they're not notified when they are blocked 😉

Until comment controls come to Friendica, moderation here will mostly have to be reactive.

I will continue using venera.social for groups until a better solution comes along.

queenslight,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews I’m surprised Friendica doesn’t have that.

Weird!

mike,

Friendica once had moderate comment control. The current devs removed it.There's always streams if you want to see what is possible when you aren't ruled by market share and just want a safe space with cool tools.

atomicpoet, (edited ) to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

I need you all to do me a favour and follow these steps:

  1. Visit this post: https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/110328640192551572

  2. Click the link shown I've shown in the red box (see screenshot)

  3. Tell me if the link goes to mastodon.social or venera.social

I want everyone to report what you see.

kainoa,

@atomicpoet mastodon.social

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

I found the source of the bug!

If you tag a profile in Mastodon (ex: @fediversenews, then include the URL to that profile, Mastodon redirects the URL to the profile.

This is why this URL will go to mastodon.social instead of venera.social:

https://venera.social/profile/fediversenews

I'll file the bug report after I have my lunch!

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Just a reminder that @fediversenews is not a “headless boost bot”.

It’s a Fediverse group hosted on a Friendica server, specifically venera.social.

If you’re unaware of what this group actually looks like, please visit this URL:

https://venera.social/profile/fediversenews

Please don’t use this as a boosting service for Mastodon or you’ll be banned.

Rairii,
@Rairii@haqueers.com avatar

@atomicpoet nice, your server decided to "helpfully" rewrite that url as a mention?

here it is again https://venera.social/profile/fediversenews

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@oliphant Again, this is why I opted to use a group instead of a hashtag.

As I've learned from Twitter and Instagram, when hashtags gain popularity, they get hijacked -- and there's nothing you can do about it.

A group at least gives me the option to ban bad actors from attempting that.

atomicpoet, to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Keep in mind why I opted for using Fediverse groups instead of hashtags: anyone can use a hashtag and therefore hijack it.

There’s no way to block someone from using a hashtag. However, trolls can be blocked from using a group.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

@AbortTheGQPNOW @steve is basically a microblogging platform just like Twitter and Mastodon. However, Calckey has many, many more features than both:

  1. Photo galleries
  2. Groups
  3. Webpages
  4. Cloud storage
  5. Emoji reactions

Best way to understand it, is to try it. Here's a server that you can try out with:

https://calckey.social/

AbortTheGQPNOW,
@AbortTheGQPNOW@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet @steve Thanks. I'll give it a whirl.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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I'm test driving for public groups.

Like , /kbin can ban trolls from participating in groups.

Unlike Friendica, you can remove posts local to where the group is hosted.

Unfortunately, the offending comments still appears in user timelines because other Fediverse servers do not delete after comments are removed locally.

Another alternative could be which supports groups through "Channels". However these do NOT federate.

@fediversenews

ernest,
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@atomicpoet Currently, I'm trying to adapt to Lemmy, which I know best. Friendica and *Key are much more mature software than /kbin. I'm still allowing myself to experiment until I release the first version and officially open kbin.social. Currently, I'm monitoring the situation and I'm able to react quickly enough not to bother anyone with my instance. I'm gathering feedback from people, which is great and will definitely speed up the work https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues. I'll look into integrating with Friendica, as it works a bit differently. I know how important it is.

Currently, kbin is more of an instance for early adopters, and I want to make that clear.

@fediversenews @lapingvino

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@strypey @atomicpoet @fediversenews

So the docs cover the essentials. Seems pretty good. A community has moderators specific to that community, who can also moderate over federation from another instance!
Also, it seems a user can be locked out from a specific thread without being banned from the community.

Creating a new community is open to all lemmy to and following one subscribes you to the group like with friendica (just in case you didn’t know)

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/04-moderation.html

atomicpoet, to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

I’ve known this for awhile: the reason Twitter funded Bluesky is because they were sick and tired of being held liable for all the kinds of crap that gets posted to their platform.

Twitter no longer wanted to be in the publishing business. They wanted to be in the algorithm business.

How to do this? Force people to host their own content.

Jdreben,

@atomicpoet I don't think they really want users to host their own content though. They want other businesses to. Idk

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Think about it from a social media company’s perspective.

Is it better to be a publisher who’s held liable for content that you don’t want to moderate?

Or is it better to be the service that pretty much says, “Hey, we have nothing to do with what that server is about but here’s a link nevertheless”?

Ask Alphabet, the company behind Google.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Well, this is an unexpected curveball.

Jack Dorsey hopes that Bluesky will be “temporary”.

How likely is Bluesky to actually be “temporary”?

@fediversenews

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Jack Dorsey even implies that is just a “proof of concept”.

If that’s true, I hope no institution is setting up an account on Bluesky.

Bluesky is fine for shitposting. But anything work-related shouldn’t be hosted on a “proof of concept”.

atomicpoet,
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

My big conclusion from Jack Dorsey’s thread is that is NOT comparable to Mastodon.

You can’t compare a temporary proof of concept with something that is production-ready right now.

The hint is Bluesky’s website: staging.bsky.app

It’s “staging” for a reason!

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Yes, at calckey.social, we blocked mastodonapp.uk. This was not an arbitrary decision.

We received multiple reports of transphobia from mastodonapp.uk, with no action being taken from their mods. For the safety of our users, many who are transgender, we had to initiate defederation.

This was not a choice we made lightly, but our community’s safety comes first.

@fediversenews

ArtBear,

@SrRochardBunson @atomicpoet @fediversenews

Hiya 👋

Well I cancelled my monthly donation to mastodonapp.uk

I assumed I might have made some awful social faux pas around November/December and loads of people I was being friendly with either disappeared or maybe blocked me. Awful meme-age or poor taste in music, or cooking related or something.

Turns out loads of servers blocked my server without there being any solid communication of that to users here.

So frankly I'm pissed, really pissed.

wild1145,

@ArtBear @SrRochardBunson @atomicpoet

Absolutely, we don't want folks to block us and we especially don't want it if it's something we haven't had the ability to fix. I've re checked reports and have seen nothing from Calckey domain so either something is broken with their ability to send us reports or the report was simply never shared with us for us to do anything.

As soon as we know the report info we will investigate and resolve the concerns.

atomicpoet, to random
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Someone downloaded all 1,680,399 posts on Bluesky.

If someone did that to Mastodon, people would be pissed.

Not linking to those downloads, by the way.

kepic,

@atomicpoet
Actually, is there something preventing someone from doing just that? Can be crawled and downloaded?

Jdreben,

@kepic @atomicpoet It's not so much that it can't be done as that'd it'd be much harder, potentially intractable?

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