Starlink

tagesschau, German
@tagesschau@ard.social avatar

Ukraine: Musk will Angriff auf Russlands Flotte verhindert haben

Der Satellitendienst Starlink von Elon Musk ist das Rückgrat für die Drohnenangriffe des ukrainischen Militärs. Nun behauptet der Unternehmer, sich bei einem Angriff auf die russische Schwarzmeer-Flotte quergestellt zu haben.

➡️ https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/amerika/musk-starlink-ukraine-100.html?at_medium=mastodon&at_campaign=tagesschau.de

disco3000,

@tagesschau und genau wegen solchen Aktionen sollte man solche egomanischen Milliardäre wie Musk, Zuckerberg oder Gates entmachten. Per Gesetz.

helgenug,
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NatalieDavis,

Appalling. The U.S. military should immediately rid itself of dependence on a capricious oligarch who feels entitled to conduct his own ignorant foreign policy. If this doesn't violate the Neutrality Act, it should. We privatize far too much that is vital to national security.

"Elon Musk gave biographer top Ukrainian official’s private messages without permission

Elon Musk gave his biographer private messages from a top Ukraine official without seeking permission, revealing exchanges over the entrepreneur restricting the Starlink internet service to thwart Kyiv’s military.

Ukrainian deputy prime minister Mykhailo Fedorov told the Financial Times on Friday that he was unaware that Walter Isaacson had obtained and published the messages in a forthcoming biography of Musk written with the billionaire’s full collaboration."

🔗: https://www.ft.com/content/b38367f0-c70f-4a26-b9fa-8bf160e1803a




mastodonmigration,
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Musk's sabotage of an ongoing Ukrainian offensive military operation raises more questions: How did Musk know when and where the operation was happening so as to disable communications at the critical moment such that the attack would fail and the drone assets lost? What other operations is he meddling with? Is he sharing any comms or location information gleaned from with the Russians?

References: https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/09/07/elon-musk-shuts-down-starlink-in-crimea-to-stop-ukraines-drone-attack-on-russian-navy/, https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink

mastodonmigration,
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MBtrueb,

@mastodonmigration

“When Elon Musk reportedly spoke of a “great conversation” with Russian President Vladimir Putin, minutes after declaring he could see “the entire war unfolding” through a map of activity on the small satellite constellation he owns, a senior defense official had the following reaction: “Oh dear, this is not good.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/30/elon-musk-starlink-internet-satellite-ukraine/

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

Regarding , I think there’s some contradictory messages circulating right now.

A week ago the narrative was that Musk switched off Starlink over Black Sea in order to thwart Ukraine’s naval drones attacks. Now the message seems to be that he didn’t actually switch anything off, he just refused to activate it when it was not active in that area before.

We don’t know if he could activate it by a matter of a simple decision, or it would involve reconfiguration of the satellite constellation or whatever other significant technical changes. Two-way satellite communication systems don’t have 100% coverage on the Earth and they are limited both by commercial interests (few prospective Starlink users in the middle of Black Sea) and technical limitations (number of satellites, physical constraints of orbits etc).

There’s one more point from Musk’s response worth highlighting: Starlink is a civilian system intended to provide commercial broadband Internet access, not real-time communications to weapon systems. If it starts to be used for the latter, it has consequences for both Starlink and for other users of Starlink, such as jamming, sabotage, sanctions, threats etc.

Most importantly, US army has completely separate real-time video systems for use by their UAVs and yet nobody expects US army giving full access to them. In the same way we shouldn’t be really surprised Ukraine army is piggybacking on a civilian communications systems like Starlink for their weapons, but also by the fact that its operator is reluctant to extend its zone of operations to suit strictly military needs.

Update: @GrumpySkipper provided a very important information that changes the context significantly: Starlink was contracted by US DoD to provide satellite communications to Ukraine military specifically https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/pentagon-buys-starlink-ukraine-statement-2023-06-01/

pthenq1,
@pthenq1@mastodon.la avatar

@kravietz

That is desinformation. They release several versions of the same story so you do not know which one is true.

The true one is the first story. Because if you move your transceiver, you still are covered. When the Ukrainians did that, they were not covered.

Anything else is desinformation.

I am finishing a letter to my representative. I do not want the money of my taxes goes to that motherfucker until he stops

robryk,
@robryk@qoto.org avatar

@kravietz I don't believe this is the reasoning behind their actions. If it were the reasoning, I'd expect starlink to try to publicly provide reasonably detailed rules on service in warzones in an attempt to lessen the risk of blackmail ("unless you favor us in this warzone, we will <damage your satellites, ...>"). What I see is Musk making statements that his decisions depend on likely military outcomes, which seems to me as a way to achieve the exact opposite.

w7voa,
@w7voa@journa.host avatar

CNN: Elon Musk secretly ordered engineers to turn off his company’s satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt from a new biography. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

rob11563,
@rob11563@mastodon.coffee avatar

@w7voa Revoke his citizenship, seize his assets and deport him.

w7voa,
@w7voa@journa.host avatar

"Musk is the last adequate mind in North America. Or, at the very least, in gender-neutral America, he is the one with the balls," reacts Dmitry Medvedev, former president of .

gerowen,
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iuculano,
@iuculano@masto.ai avatar

Psssst....

is a
#X is a Russian Asset

Just saying.


AlexSanterne,
@AlexSanterne@astrodon.social avatar

In case you do not remember how the #night #sky was before all the #StarLink / #SpaceX #satellites, here is one of the #timelapse I did 5 years ago from the #ESO #LaSilla #observatory, in #Chile

The #video lasts 1 minute but it corresponds to 10 hours.

The big dish is a decommissioned radio #telescope. In the background there is the 3.6-m telescope with its #exoplanet-hunting instrument #HARPS

#Astronomy #Astrophotography #space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVKKSiIjlo

credits: A. Santerne / ESO

taco,

Musk-linked stocks are going to take an absolute battering over the confirmed stories of him using his control of to aid and abet Russian war crimes.

Make no mistake: his decision to hamper Ukrainian operations directly cost civilians lives. The ships he saved have bombarded Ukraine’s civilians since.

Nationalization is becoming a realer possibility by the day.

Especially given that there’s no dispute: he did this, and that was the result.

JohnBarentine,
@JohnBarentine@astrodon.social avatar

"Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet."

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

ToniScott,
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@JohnBarentine utterly despicable and treacherous

LALegault,
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If is your , cancel ASAP

itnewsbot,

Musk shut off Starlink to prevent Ukraine attack on Russian ships, report says - Enlarge / Starlink satellite dish seen on September 25, 2022, in Izyum,... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1966184

LALegault,
@LALegault@newsie.social avatar

@itnewsbot he is a foreigner and a national security risk, deport him and nationalize his assets.

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fasnix, German
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Was für eine Macht hat, ist schon unfassbar!

Wodurch?
ZB

In der hat Musk Starlink angeboten, das u.a. vom ukrainischen Militär genutzt wird.
Das amerikanische Verteidigungsministerium unterstützt das mit 20 Millonen $ je Monat.

Auf Nachfrage der Zeitung "The New Yorker" zu Einzelheiten des Deals, meinte ein Pressesprecher:
"Wir reden dann mit euch, wenn Elon es zulässt."


wiederum gefällt der Einsatz von Starlink in der Ukraine gar nicht und hat sich von Musk zusichern lassen, dass er das in nicht anbieten würde (für den eventuellen Angriff durch China).

Quelle:

Folge 191: "Musk dreht die Links auf links"
https://www.podcast.de/podcast/3112127/haken-dran-das-twitter-update

fasnix,
@fasnix@dresden.network avatar

@fzer0
Möglich, ich fand es nur bemerkenswert, dass - laut Podcast - China das eben explizit zugesichert lassen haben soll.

br00t4c,
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

'Chaos': New report details headaches Starlink's deployment in Ukraine gave U.S. officials--including fears Musk might cut service on a whim

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine/

bespacific,
@bespacific@newsie.social avatar

Ronan Farrow writes in New Yorker that U.S. govt so reliant on whose mobile Internet terminals are vital to military that it is now struggling "to respond to his risk-taking, brinkmanship, and caprice". There is little precedent for the dependency that the U.S. now has on Musk from the future of and to the of . is currently sole means by which transports crew from US soil into https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

kimhoar,
@kimhoar@toot.community avatar

@bespacific Just nationalize Starlink and have NASA run it. Reality check for the Musker

JohnBarentine,
@JohnBarentine@astrodon.social avatar

"Malfunctioning [] in Phase 1 cause an 86.2% self-induced collision probability based on a malfunctioning rate of 1%, which is close to the collision probability caused by objects larger than 6 cm during five years of service"

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s42064-023-0171-7

sundogplanets,
@sundogplanets@mastodon.social avatar

@JohnBarentine Do you happen to have a non-paywalled copy of this?

ecsd,

@JohnBarentine

Sorry, HOMO SAPIENS has no business allowing ONE PERSON to litter Earth's near-space "because he feels like it". "Starlink" should never have been commenced, and it would be fine to invite the Russians and Chinese to help us dispose of all those extra satellites in orbit-just-to-satisfy-one-man's-ego.

"wi fi", puh-LEEz.

TimBondy,

At 9:45 pm on Sunday, August 13, 2023, I went outside to star gaze. I was looking for the planet Saturn. That is when I saw the long line of StarLink satellites tracking east-southeast over my house.

This is the second time I have seen this. And it was both extremely cool and somewhat disturbing that the satellites were so visible from my nighttime view.

It would be nice to not see the modern world when looking up but cool that technology is so readily visible.

kkarhan,

@TimBondy So basically it's like but with distracting frequency...

Because did choose to have their replacements not ...

enuts_, French

Question suite à le lecture de cet article : pourquoi les satellites doivent-ils faire tant de lumière ? À quoi ça sert ?

https://www.numerama.com/sciences/1472850-des-satellites-starlink-volent-la-vedette-aux-etoiles-filantes-des-perseides.html

mastodonmigration, (edited )
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Trying to observe the Perseid meteor shower through clusters of Starlink satellites crisscrossing the sky is a metaphor for our times. Billionaires are simply ruining everything.

ArchusByte,
@ArchusByte@hachyderm.io avatar

@mastodonmigration We're out camping and I was able to find a field to lay down and watch for a bit with the kids. We saw several smaller ones but nothing really big. I still remember one I saw on a ferry back ~2003 that was like a yellow highlighter.

darabos,
@darabos@mastodon.online avatar

@mastodonmigration Is that what these small streaks are in a long exposure shot?

spaceflight, (edited )

Which kind of ⚡ is used for V2 ?

spaceflight,

📆 Nov 17, 2023 After decades of arguments, experiments, claims and counter-claims, a 🛰️ smaller than a shoebox is preparing to activate a drive in for the first time.
typically have drives which propel tiny quantities of ionized gas at extreme speeds to give little pulses of thrust.
Developers claim the goes beyond Newton using non-Newtonian relativity and .
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/11/17/controversial-quantum-space-drive-in-orbital-test-others-to-follow/

NatalieDavis,

Filling this under NSS. (No Shit, Sherlock)

"Global Militaries Worry Elon Musk Is Too Erratic To Manage Starlink Competently"

🔗: https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/02/global-militaries-worry-elon-musk-is-too-erratic-to-manage-starlink-competently/

kaffeeringe, German
@kaffeeringe@social.tchncs.de avatar

: Elon Musks unübertroffene Macht in den Sternen: Der Tech-Milliardär ist zur dominierenden Kraft in der Satelliten-Internet-Technologie geworden. Die Art und Weise, wie er diesen Einfluss ausübt, lässt weltweit Alarm schlagen.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html

NatalieDavis,

is a straight up Bond villain without the charm.

"Elon Musk’s Unmatched Power in the Stars

(...) While Mr. Musk is hailed as a genius innovator, he alone can decide to shut down Starlink internet access for a customer or country, and he has the ability to leverage sensitive information that the service gathers. Such concerns have been heightened because no companies or governments have come close to matching what he has built.

In Ukraine, some fears have been realized. Mr. Musk has restricted Starlink access multiple times during the war, people familiar with the situation said. At one point, he denied the Ukrainian military’s request to turn on Starlink near Crimea, the Russian-controlled territory, affecting battlefield strategy. Last year, he publicly floated a “peace plan” for the war that seemed aligned with Russian interests."

Gift article 🔗: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html?unlocked_article_code=bjhAkHcKWNWP5qrb3jZStkjCKOYHNOqptrCrLAKE7AfNfoWw-IUjOTRqSI5-26J38LNYBDvFZoZrxbeFpRFMibCmUP9W4rq_9mnRTTFMzfASDe_KiuLN67VIKh5Si09GHW-RGqGM_x8d0XKMcQOMMn-7Tuu1oXiIxrDjOg8GjMMWHPSNZIsQmidmq36Ej6GDpAOQxFhLBkUC15LIiOwHKNJWxZl0BlVH9RV4pvJJ-dz1_8Ao8zuvNkqOBzczbyAQPWMafdN9J8Mvf_cH0jrUbxG3iDOhU2wRIGqGkxXB05-pCnZKUfAHcGIrrMcLd5008GjkZhYSF_A4CCP4EarDbMfBSQ&smid=nytcore-android-share



mastodonmigration, (edited )
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@NatalieDavis

continued...

  • Radio astronomers are also extremely concerned, as all these satellites transmit information down to Earth, which can interfere with astronomical observations.

More astronomy concerns >>> https://spacenews.com/astronomers-renew-concerns-about-starlink-satellite-brightness/ and https://www.space.com/kessler-syndrome-space-debris

Screwing up radio astronomy >>>https://www.space.com/starlink-electronics-hum-disturbs-radio-astronomy

And we haven't even addressed the Kessler Syndrome which promises to destroy everything in low earth orbit (LEO) >>> https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/Kessler-Syndrome

NatalieDavis,

@nuncio I know that, you know that. The NYT, I'm not so sure.

danyork,
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

Good piece in the NY Times about Elon Musk’s but it only lightly mentions WHY he is in this dominant position - is the only one reliably launching rockets at scale into right now!

  • United Launch Alliance’s (ULA) Vulcan Centaur is repeatedly delayed
  • Arianespace’s Ariane 6 has been delayed for years now

Neither may first launch until 2024, & then they have to grow to launch at the scale needed.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html

Tip @Techmeme
1/

billday,

@danyork Thank his engineers and the slaves who died in his Daddy’s emerald mines. As the story also points out, the fact that his rockets work does not make him any less of a greedy, erratic creep who probably should not be permitted to threaten the world with the threat of cutting off access to global communication.

danyork,
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@lan Thanks for that! Very interesting people laying out some of the definite issues. Thanks!

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