There's a vision behind #Catodon: To build a software that will be as self-explanatory as it gets, so that you can invite your (irl or from other platforms) friends to your community and they will instantly feel familiar. People tend to not like change; they like sticking with what's familiar. So when they enter a fedi server and they see all the confusing terminology and buttons they don't understand what they do, it's just one more reason for them to give up and go back to facebook or wherever. Not everyone will want to come to your fedi community, but for those who are willing to try something different, let's at least not put unnecessary obstacles in their path. They're attempting to feel at home here - let's make them feel at home.
@panos I'm on #FireFish currently. What would you say is the biggest contrast between #Catodon and #FireFish, besides the obvious lack of updates and abandonment issues?
Ich werde der ein oder andere Person einen #Fediverse#Account auf meinen #Server ermöglichen und habe dazu eine allgemeinere #Domain als meine eigene crazy-to-bike.de registriert.
Nun stellt sich noch die Frage nach der richtgen #Software für die #Instanz.
Das gefällt mir aber im Vergleich zu anderen Möglichkeiten weder optisch, noch finde ich die #Zeichenlimitierung gut.
Derzeit bin ich ja auf #Firefish unterwegs, aber das scheint den letzen Prognosen zu Folge ein höchstwahrscheinlich totes Pferd zu sein.
#Sharkey als weiteren #Misskey-Nachfolger #Fork teste ich gerade auch, was für mich eine mögliche Alternative zu Firefish ist. Aber auch dieses Projekt ist ja noch sehr frisch und in meinen Augen einfach nicht absehbar, wie dauerhaft das Ganze fortbesteht.
Auf #Friendica war ich ja auch schon eine Zeit lang unterwegs, aber das ist optisch auch sehr angestaubt und hat bei mir auf dem Server auch datenbanktechnisch rebelliert.
Ich weiß, dass es noch eine ganze Reihe Alternativen gibt, will und kann aber nicht alles durchprobieren.
Daher hoffe ich auf gute Tipps.
Wichtig ist
kein, hohes oder einstellbares Zeichenlimit
gute Strukturierung und Kategoriesierung von Lesezeichen (wie bei Firefish und Sharkey mit den Clips)
Folgen von #Hastags und / oder Begriffen (wie bei Firefish und Sharkey mit den Newspickern / Antennen)
gutes, ansprechendes und leicht bedienbares responsive Design für die Nutzung auf dem Smartphone (oder volle Unterstützung durch eine App wie bei Mastodon)
Schön wäre
Konfigurierbarkeit des Speicherverbrauchs durch die Föderation (was wird wie lange auf dem eigenen Server vorgehalten) wie bei Mastodon
automatische Löschung von Beiträgen konfigurierbar wie bei Mastodon
hohe Wahscheinlichkeit einer nachhaltigen Weiterentwicklung
Moderierte Kontoerstellung wie bei Mastodon
Je länger ich hier schreibe, denke ich, dass Mastodon für sehr vieles davon wohl die richtige Software wäre - will ich aber eigentlich aus Gründen nicht.
How did we go from way too many semi popular english Misskey forks to literally only having one soon (Sharkey)
Firefish kinda had its moment but currently doesn't seem that much will happen
Foundkey while still maintained is not really meant for more than one user instances
Iceshrimp is currently doing an full C# or well rather they are doing their own thing not using the MisskeyAPI and also rewriting the frontend, which means when thats done they aren't really part of the Misskey Family of forks anymore
Catodon, from the start is not trying to be anything like misskey and more like a user friendly mastodon-key mix, but they are also interested in using Iceshrimp as a kinda upstream meaning they would also not be part of the Misskey Family of Forks
how did we go from #Sharkey being hated on for being another #misskey fork, to it being the only major true english misskey fork left, if #firefish doesn't comeback to life and if iceshrimp continues its rewrite
Lol this must be the best way to describe the #Firefish experience of late. I'm trying to migrate over my partner's account from ff.social to sakurajima.social. The way to do it is:
On sakurajima.social, update that you'll be migrating FROM your account on ff.social.
On ff.social, update that you'll be migrating TO your account on sakurajima.social.
I did just that and on ff.social, it showed that it was successful yet nothing was happening on sakurajima.social (her followers of 1, me, should've migrated to her new account). I refreshed the same migrations page on ff.social and it showed that my partner's new account was trying to migrate over to ff.social instead of AWAY from ff.social. Repeated attempts would just do the same thing over and over 😩 On my own ff.social account, the migration attempt just fails and rate limits me to 1 day+ to retry.
I've always supported Firefish, and it's the only project I've actually been financially contributing to (till this day even, albeit not much), but honestly F*ck you ff, you're such a goddamn pain in the butt.
So, as you may have heard, #Firefish development seems to be in limbo. But the good folks at @catodon.social and @iceshrimp.social have picked up the ball and run with it. So if you’re looking for an ActivityPub-based solution for your community ambitions, do take a look.
:MokouWha: what's with #forkey related developers doing shit in the #fediverse that can only be dreamed by the absolutely deranged :suwawawa:
first we have someone trying to make migrating a #mastodon instance to #sharkey possible, now we have #firefish to some #tumblr lookalike called #wafrn :TenshMelt:
pls keep coming up with this shit, the fedi needs more of this :RumiaPray:
#Csharp rewrite and ditching the #Misskey API... It feels to me like they took one of the factors that led to #Firefish's downfall and said "hey we can do worse than that!" :SanaeConfuzzled:
I've just discovered that the #Firefish project seems dead. I tried it last summer (built my own server with this #fediverse platform). It had real potential. It seems now that it is replaced by a new project called #Catodon.
The host that serves this :devnamic: #Firefish and also a personal :ladragonera: #Pixelfed died this morning and I didn't notice until an hour ago.
I had to reset it physically, manually. I need to find a way to do so remotely. There has to be a way to reset a :rpi: #RaspberryPi physically with another one.
Was für einen Server des #fediverse würdet ihr empfehlen, um selbst zu betreiben. Ich hatte eigentlich bei #firefish ein gutes Gefühl. Offensichtlich lag ich komplett falsch. Welcher #Misskey fork bleibt uns länger erhalten? Oder doch #mastodon?
Actually it's not so much down as it's stuck in some sort of a loop, flashing warning messages about "Your ad blocker" and "An Error has occurred" "But it's (probably) not your fault"
Down at the bottom of the screen is the only coherent message:
The importance of staying on a federated service that's is recieving devolopment and updates for user security /etc :sharkey: :firefish:
The Fediverse is a wonderful place, yet if projects discontinue, you as a user can either keep dead projects alive by hosting new servers or start up a new project and keep it alive and secured with updates. :firefish: :sharkey:
We're one week into 2024, do you know what that means? Time to clean up your #SNS “following” especially here in the #Fediverse.
Check the “dormant” accounts if you can unfollow them.
Check which accounts “moved”. Follow their new account, then unfollow their old account.
And maybe there are other accounts that you haven't interacted with in the past few months; and their content is no longer something that you are interested, you can unfollow them too.
If you still want to see their content, you can encourage them to use #hashtags and you follow those hashtags. Or, join a federated “group” like those powered by #Mbin#Kbin#Friendica#Chirp and #Lemmy.
Of course, depending on the fediverse platform your instance is using, there are probably better features to the content of users without seeing their content that is not of interest to you. A good example, #Firefish / #Catodon / #IceShrimp can do that through the “Antenna” feature.
Take some time to do this, and start your 2024 fediverse better than 2023.
Here's another new feature in #Catodon, cherry picked from #Firefish! A language selector, so that you can define your post's language. Once timeline filters are implemented, you'll be able to filter posts by language(s)!
One feature I miss from #Twitter is explanations for ongoing trends on the platform. It saved me the research step to know what chronically online quirk is now “it” and avoids misunderstanding one thing for another.
It was nice for quickly getting an overview of a currently discussed topic before going through a wall of posts and not understanding anything which really helped with my #ADHD.
I’m kinda playing with the idea of switching instances, but I’m holding back because I don’t wanna lose my posts here.
I wish #Mastodon supported #NomadicIdentity like #Firefish (and maybe #Catodon as well?), but those two supporting it wouldn’t help much in my case as I’m not sure they would work with @ivory and don’t seem to offer any mobile clients besides Feditext which is in beta.
Firefish did claim to support the Mastodon API so it should work with Ivory, right?