Fediverse

osc,

I'm currently trying out the web client (at https://elk.zone), and it's great!

I wouldn't be surprised if Elk ends to be the default web client

TheSteve0,
@TheSteve0@data-folks.masto.host avatar

That big , epiphany for me continues to reverberate.

It's not BlueSky vs Mastodon

For now

It's BlueSky vs Fediverse

Rather than trying to contribute to improve ActivityPub, in sadly typical silicon valley behavior, they invented a new protocol. One, that as far as I can tell, is incompatible.

I say "for now" bc maybe there will be more than one "server" that works on AT Protocol.

I can run server software different than Mastodon yet still interact with all it's users

AlderForrest,

Next year there will be 20 years anniversary for my first Bachelor's degree of Engineering in field of Information Technology, particulary networks. I remember things where much different back then. E-mail with terminal, using pine, etc. Bulky slow PCs, laptops where luxury items back then.

The enthusiasm for trying new things online was very strong at the time. I would say that if Calckey, for example, had been available at that time, there would have been an instance available on the server of every UAS in Finland for students and staff to use.

In today's world it just seems to be very different. Has the enthusiasm been lost, or why have the institutions not gone further in supporting fediverse? Or is this only just coming? I hope so.

Only a few institutions I know of have got involved. For example South-Eastern Finland University of Applied Sciences (XAMK), they have their own instance (fedi.xamk.fi)

elisse,
@elisse@mas.to avatar

I’ve tried to understand what and are but I am kind of puzzled… are they like Mastodon forks? For blogging? I can’t seem to tell.

elisse,
@elisse@mas.to avatar

@oliphant Sorry for my ignorance but what are channels? Or is there someplace I can go to read about this in simple words so I stop bothering you? 😂

elisse,
@elisse@mas.to avatar

@oliphant I’ll try to get an account in one and see how that works out! Unfortunately it looks like calckey.social is closed for signups.

ungleich,

We think is a pretty cool software and are looking for a good excuse to build up - anyone interested?

ungleich,

Oh, and in case you don't know us so well yet: we are a provider running on 100% energy. And if you ever wanted to get a hosted/managed version of some opensource software, don't hesitate to ping6 us.

EwanCroft,

is being beaten by , it seems

lea,

@EwanCroft astonishing sample size of 16 ​:fefe:​

TigerBunComics,

That moment when the sun shines through the woods

dasme,
@dasme@mastodon.social avatar

I wish had a way to filter posts based on the the language they were written in. One issue with following hashtags for me is that it seems like more than half of the posts that make their way into my feed are not in english.

Don't get me wrong, I love that other languages are out there on the Fediverse… but it just clutters up my timeline with posts that have little value to me.

That's one thing that Twitter has right.

shauny,

@dasme I’m pretty sure I read that this is a thing that should work, but relies on people correctly using the right language when they post, which apps don’t tend to differentiate (I know the Glitch variant of Mastodon lets you choose language when posting)

So maybe it will soon work?

dasme,
@dasme@mastodon.social avatar

@shauny One can hope! That would do so much to clean up my timeline. I've avoided adding more hashtag follows, too much spam already and my mute list is growing too big :)

keithwilson,
@keithwilson@fediphilosophy.org avatar

Rather than starting a vs. war, is there any way to build a bridge between and ? If both are open standards with roughly comparable functionality, I wouldn’t have thought this should be too difficult, with some limitations. Thoughts?

redegelde,
@redegelde@mastodon.education avatar

@keithwilson would that be the crux for making an succes? Let user pay. For some weird way lot of users love paying for an blue bird, etc. I love my donations. Really great. But this is free to do as it should be.

keithwilson,
@keithwilson@fediphilosophy.org avatar

@redegelde Not at all. But why should that be a barrier to making the two platforms interoperable?

davidbisset,
@davidbisset@phpc.social avatar

" Has Already Won"

https://d-s.sh/2023/mastodon-has-already-won/

I agree with this here. Judge this community on merits like these vs what other social platforms (some of which are getting some attention, some of which aren't even at a 1.0 version) are doing.

johnflomax,

@davidbisset
That is why I was commenting!
@Gargron

davidbisset,
@davidbisset@phpc.social avatar

@johnflomax 👍🏻

emoryr,
@emoryr@techpolicy.social avatar

For folks that have embraced the and, like me, are addicted to booklet printing anything that needs to be printed, you might have been disappointed to find pretty lackluster support for printing booklets on 'nix.
What you're looking for is 'Boomaga'. I stumbled upon this in a comment in a thread from a decade ago and have no idea why it isn't more widely recommended. It's great.

fabianschaar, German

Liebes : Was sind eigentlich so eure Lieblings-?

PuschyMTB,

@fabianschaar

Band seit ü30 Jahren Public Enemy.
Hatten ja auch einen großen Einfluss auf Metal/CrossOver/NuMetal

Bin 90er Hopper und DJ

fabianschaar,

@PuschyMTB Interessant! Höre ich gleich mal rein. :)

scottrut,

Wondering if anybody can answer this simple question. If you re-blog your own post, does this boost the post orders boosting only work if somebody else re-blogs your post? Thanks very much for your help.

queenslight,

@scottrut It definitely boosts your own post.

The only time ya can’t boost a posts, is if a post is marked as Followers Only or a direct one.

J_aa_p,
@J_aa_p@mastodon.social avatar

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This Toot and the image below is created with https://Tusk.Ninja.

Have fun!

darren,

Hi, new to . I wanted to try something other than to see if this is where I should make my home in the . Just shopping around today. Try b4 I buy. I like the Calckey onboarding process. Very simple.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

Are you having problems getting your website link to turn green on your Mastodon profile?

Here are some instructions on how to verify your identity, including turning your site link green, and a set of troubleshooting suggestions on what to do if it doesn't work:

➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-verify-my-account/

The troubleshooting tips are in the lower half of the page, in the section marked "My website address won’t turn green! How do I make it happen?".

lrreynolds,
@lrreynolds@mstdn.social avatar

@feditips does this mean you can pay to get verified on ?

pronoiac,

@feditips under troubleshooting, I'd note the Mastodon Link Debugger - https://mastodon-link-debugger.vercel.app

hankg,

Open question to the Relatica community, or potential Relatica users in the fediverse. I'm implementing user-side filtering right now, which is unfortunately not something in Friendica and would be harder for me to implement there than client side. That's things like put posts behind a spoiler type banner if they have certain hashtags or hide them entirely if they come from a specific domain. It'll actually allow for more complex combinations of filtering on authors, content, hashtags, and domains. Like one could have a filters that do: "Hide posts from User X with Hashtags A, B, C" and "Put a warning card up for posts with these keywords in the post body from domains that end with *.social". My question comes for if this should be an app-wide setting or a per-account setting, for users with multiple accounts. Because the type of accounts people have could be radically different I'm thinking it should be per-account. Thoughts?

volkris,

@hankg

Per account sounds like a good idea since IMO one of the best use cases for having multiple accounts in the first place is to wear different hats, like work vs personal personas.

jynersolives,

Re all that talk about onboarding, UX, and stuff like that on the #Fediverse, especially #Mastodon (but also with #Calckey, which is often praised as the better alternative): I really don't think that this matters so much.

Sure, Mastodon isn't the user friendliest interface of the Fedi, or the social media in general. But Calckey is only marginally better, as I've experienced using it the past few days. Don't get me wrong, I love both and depending on Calckey's development, also if there's going to be a larger German/European instance, I might make this a home in the Fedi. Just not now, Mastodon (especially if you're on a large instance like .social) has more than a hand up imo.

But this not what I want to talk about. It's about the onboarding and UX stuff that allegedly prevents people from embracing the Fedi. I think this rubbish. Even the "best" UX (best according to what?) is still part of the Fedi, a decentralised, non-commercial oriented, non algorithm-based social network of social networks. And THAT is the problem for folks imo.

We have been educated for well over a decade what social media IS: commercial, ad-based, algorithmic, focused on clout, attention, virality. NOT on building organic social relationships online. That was a nice side-effect, but the main thing was: YOU are the product, the most prized commodity, but you have to compete with other products i.e. other people for attention, clout, virality etc. in order to fill the pockets of the network owners (which were not you, but folks like Zuckerberg, Dorsey, and now Musk).

Social media culture since the late 2000s/early 2010s has changed our perception of what it means to be social online. Where we originally had social networks, those turned into social media and a business model. AND NOW the Fedi: a complete contra point to that, with a very different culture. Here it is about building organic social relations, in a non-commercial, non algorithm-based environment. And regardless how easy you make the technical onboarding process and the UX, this built-in difference, that's not just technological BUT CULTURAL, irritates people.

That's why #BlueSky will fail spectacularly once it truly federates i.e. once there's not just one node running AT protocol but 1000s or 10th of 1000s. The battle for the future of our social online presences is not won by building a nicer UX experience but by engaging in a war of position (Gramsci!) about what it means to be social online. So yes, it requires online activism just as much as building better interfaces. My two cents.

(Brought to you by Calckey and its 5000 word post limit 😉)

peterbutler,
@peterbutler@mas.to avatar

@jynersolives I appreciate that too. Decentralize the culture as well as the protocol! ;)

peterbutler,
@peterbutler@mas.to avatar

@jynersolives And yes, Neely was a Black American who was murdered on the subway by a White veteran. It will be the "outrage story” for a while

grobmeier,
@grobmeier@mastodon.social avatar

If you want to succeed, just be around, post, and have fun. It's easy. I check two times a day (sometimes three), and I find the input refreshing. I am using https://javabubble.org/ and even consider https://mastodon.social/@awsbubble@awscommunity.social as a good start for tech people.

workingwriter,

@rasterweb @grobmeier Well, you don't NEED to be obsessive about it. :crazy:

grobmeier,
@grobmeier@mastodon.social avatar

@rasterweb @workingwriter 😂 not me anymore

hirad,
hirad,

@leewalton @clemenceau
The problem is that the moderation is not limited to one's server. They also ban other servers that do not follow their rules as well.
Now, it's even possible to import block list. Someone build a long list of servers to block, and others import it in their servers without knowing why each server was included in that list.
Like this one:
https://writer.oliphant.social/oliphant/the-oliphant-social-blocklist

leewalton,

@clemenceau @clemenceau

Hmm. Just importing block lists is a sign of either over worked or lazy admins. It's a problem that will in all likelihood solve itself as the Fediverse grows even more diverse.

Admins of the UK servers chat to one another, including chat about blocks, and from what I have seen, don't just blindly apply block lists.

Urwis, Polish
mstankiewicz,
@mstankiewicz@pol.social avatar

@Urwis kolejny skutek śmiertelny korzystania z aut elektrycznych

Urwis,

@mstankiewicz pojeby wszędzie się trafiają 😉

flipside,

You know how we've got Local and Federated options over on the sidebar... I want to be able to subscribe to a whole server and have it show up in the sidebar. That way with one click I can see say the local feed for newsie.social, friendsofdesoto.social, or the new mozilla.social without having to go over to their website/server.

Is there a way to subscribe to a whole server that I'm missing? I know you can subscribe to a hashtag now, which is cool.

hirad,

@flipside you can't do that with official web interface or app. But you can use 3rd party ones.
For the web, you can use phanpy.social. there are also mobile clients that have that as well. Both on iOS and Android.

Brian_Mahoney,
@Brian_Mahoney@mas.to avatar

I'm seeing more porn on here. Not that I mind porn but it seems out of place on Mastodon. It's in the Federated, not my feed. I block the 'user'. It's not worth reporting, is it? What do you do?

anca,
@anca@mastodon.xyz avatar

@oliphant @Brian_Mahoney Do you envision that rule applying to all the content that flows through the Federated feed?

asahi95,
XOrgFoundation,
@XOrgFoundation@floss.social avatar

@asahi95 Nya!~ :xorg: 😸

hacknorris,
@hacknorris@mstdn.social avatar

@XOrgFoundation okay. that was pretty non-proffesional...

DigitalNaiv, German
@DigitalNaiv@mastodon.social avatar

Jetzt endlich doch!
hat am Donnerstag die Private-Beta-Phase für eine eigene Instanz bei der Twitter-Alternative gestartet. Der Schritt ist bedeutend, weil Mozilla bei Browsern in Deutschland knapp 19 Prozent und weltweit etwa sechs Prozent Marktanteil hat und somit ein weiterer großer Player aktiv ins dezentrale einsteigt. Das macht den großen zentralisierten Social-Media-Konzernen zunehmend Konkurrenz, berichtet @markusreuter https://netzpolitik.org/2023/fediverse-browser-riese-mozilla-startet-bei-mastodon-durch/

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