For the first time ever, I’m torn about whether I should stay on mastodon.social.
Being here has given me a voice I’ve never had, to talk about a topic that I feel strongly about, and I feel I’ve made the world a slightly different place.
But I also wonder if mastodon.social is becoming even more hostile to the rest of the Fediverse.
Calckey is a Fediverse server type which includes lots of features that Mastodon doesn't yet have, such as emoji reactions, markdown, customisable interfaces, widgets and lots more.
To see for yourself, have a look on the official website at:
https://mastodon.social being down, presumably because they're testing some of their latest features they're working on, and in the process kicking 1 million out of the 11.8 million people* (thanks @nemobis for the correction) from the fediverse is a good reminder to check out other Mastodon instances, or even other fediverse services and platforms.
@stefan
> from the fediverse is a good reminder to check out other Mastodon instances, or even other fediverse networks.
There are noch "other fediverse networks". The only network is the #Fediverse with a lot of different services and platforms - Mastodon is one of all them.
And yes - if you will stay on a Mastodon implementation you can search for an other server - there are out many of them. And if you whan to go further you can choose a platform wiht #Plermoma, #Friendcia, #Hubzilla, #Misskey, #Calckey and others only for Microblogging. For other services you find more.
This doesn't really answer the question *, sure clients will have various monetization models (though WTH is transactions). The issue is what is the server/Bluesky PBLLC business model?
Are they going to start putting ads in the feed? Are they going to charge users or clients for access? Stay free and make it up in volume? I have no clue, not sure anyone does either.
So, I think I've dug as deeply into the #hachyderm drama as I need to, and settled on some conclusions.
Most basically, the best insights came from seeing conversations on another platform: discord.
Admins from both sides were talking. And as it's a chat platform, the engagement and conversation was clearly more direct, free, expressive and clarifying.
If the fediverse wants to be the new internet, seriously, it needs to growup and move on from just microblogging.
Has anyone made contact with the people behind #Audon? I think many #blind people would like to use it, but it has a few unlabelled buttons in the room UI.
I haven’t been able to find any way to contact them but this would be a big hit in the blind community if it were a bit more #accessible.
I do feel like it's a shame that the biggest server for western artists (mastodon.art) is totally defederated from the biggest server for Japanese artists (misskey.io).
I can understand the reasons why and I don't have any real idea about how it could be resolved, but it still feels like a big wall in the middle of the #fediverse art community. And that sucks...
Hopefully something can be done to bridge the gap eventually.
Journalists should have their own Mastodon alternative to use on the #fediverse. Make sure it has all the stuff like QTs and better search they say they require to be here. It would only take one big media corporation to build it, and all these smaller outlets could run their own instances. Call it something like #Newswire.
Hier im Podcasts ab ca. Min. 15 werden auch noch mal von @Lioh einige Hintergründe zum Fediverse berichtet, an dem sie auch selbst aktiv mitentwickelt hat (auch sehr aufschlussreich in Bezug auf die aktuellen Zentralisierungs-Tendenzen im Fediverse)
Für alle Themen und Projekte gilt aber: gnulinux.ch ist ein Community-Projekt, an dem alle eingeladen und aufgerufen sind, mitzuwirken und selbst zu schreiben: gnulinux.ch/mitschreiben
Je mehr Perspektiven hier eingebracht werden, desto besser! @Kaiteki@caos
I just learned about Misskey, which is apparently ALSO a microblogging service that is part of the #Fediverse. Any tech-history-aware folks among my followers feel like taking a stab at explaining how the Fediverse came to be home to TWO microblogging services? Do they tend to be distributed across different parts of the world? Or get used to talk about different kinds of things? Are there people with both Mastodon and Misskey accounts?
@IPEdmonton there are more than two... #Akkoma and #GoToSocial are others, and there are mastodon "forks" like #Glitch and #Hometown that have different features too (my server is Hometown instead of plain Mastodon)
This came about because not everybody has the same tastes and needs such as:
Mastodon can be complicated to set up and consumes more resources. Some alternatives are easier to set up and cheaper to run
Sometimes there are geographic preferences due to origin of the software (#Misskey is from Japan, Mastodon is German)
Mastodon is written in Ruby and some people like to run servers in languages they are more familiar with (such as Elixir, Go, Python...)
Some people don't agree with Eugen's priorities or management style and want features or UI designs he doesn't want to implement like formatting posts or quote-toots so alternatives arise that do those things
Since they all interoperate not many people deliberately have multiple accounts just based on the platform...
🤣 I was showing one of my mutual followers how the $[x2 ...], $[x3 ...], and $[x4 ...] tags could be used to increase the heading's size on a #misskey/ #calckey post. I used the x3 tag to demonstrate this feature, and $[x3 it was HUGE!] I was surprised at how big it was, so I tried to tone it down a bit by using an $[x2 x2] tag, but it didn't show up on their calckey instance.
Finally gotten #MissRirica to work on the #MacOS side of things! (Which will also translate to #Android if I use that version).
Bad News:
A. Ya need to generate an access token from the #Misskey instance you’re on via the web interface among the ‘Settings’ section.
B. Not surprisingly, the app’s interface is… Um…
Once I get a stable job, I'm thinking of setting up a Mastodon/(Miss/Calc/Found)key server for me and my immediate family (which), but I'm debating on whether or not to go the #Mastodon route or go the #Misskey route; I know that Misskey may be easier to use because it only uses #javascript for its stack compared to Mastodon using JavaScript and #Ruby for its stack. I'm also debating what policies to implement to moderate my server; I will for sure adopt my current server's rules with a few edits, but I don't know what other rules I should enforce and how to enforce them.
I've been seeing some speculation about Project #Barcelona. I think they real concern should be that it will be a play similar to the old Microsoft book: embrace, extend, extinguish. Why do I think this is what #Meta is planning?
First, if they were just building a straight #Fediverse applicaaion, it would have been a no brainer to grab #Mastodon, #Misskey or any of the other platforms, tear apart the code and write their own. If all they were looking to do was have feature parity, and maybe add a bit of their own spin on it this would have only taken a few weeks with the manpower they have.
Second, their business model is one that requires them to dominate a space to sell advertising. Currently the big social media sites (FB, Instagram, TikTok, etc.) dominate the attention of pepole. This means that they will extend the ActivityPub model by using an algorithm based model to keep people's attention.
Third, they will do what they can to build the largest market share - ie, they will try to dominate the Fediverse by doing what they can to drive users to their platofrm. This will be done through extending the functionality in ways currently supported (which will later go to the W3C to become part of he ActivityPub spec).
Now, as to the "cultural change" this will cause in the Fediverse... I don't think we'll start seeing a big impact. They do have moderation, and I think they will learn quickly that if they don't moderate things pretty tightly they won't be able to enact all of the parts of their plan. And I think those plans are going to be more important.
And yes, I do think data scraping from the messages and profiles, will be an issue. Something that the #Fediverse should take seriously.
Oh, also, I will speculate they won't support profile migration...at least not out from Barcelona, but probably in-bound.