Lack of discussion on beehaw (and lemmy)

First off, I want to say that I love what the people here are doing but I do have a problem. There is never any conversation about posts. There are tons and tons of links shared but most of the time they're just articles that someone found interesting. I never see any true, meaningful discussion the way I do on reddit. Does...

Peter1986C, to random in Lack of discussion on beehaw (and lemmy)

@metaltoilet Let's try replying to this from Calckey instead of from my account on #Beehaw. If that works, I might try to boost it to increase visibility (of Beehaw, or of #Lemmy in general) on Calckey. Maybe that will increase visitors to both. ​:fediverse:​

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

Well, just confirmed that bans on @fediversenews work as they should.

A troll just tried to post here.

Their troll post doesn't display on @fediversenews, nor is their post boosted by the Group.

Even better, they're not notified when they are blocked 😉

Until comment controls come to Friendica, moderation here will mostly have to be reactive.

I will continue using venera.social for groups until a better solution comes along.

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@atomicpoet @fediversenews Not sure what "comment controls" are, but provides a "lock" action to moderators/admins of communities (which are like sub-reddits) which, AFAICT, prevents the user/account from making any further comments in a thread/post.

edendestroyer, to internet

Reject , get on a server

paul,
@paul@oldfriends.live avatar

@edendestroyer I have a stale domain that I've been holding onto for over 20 years & I'm thinking about turning it into a server. I think the name is perfect: ThatInternetPlace dot com.

Back before high-speed internet &before DSL, when the world was on dial up, we had a coffee shop &added high speed internet through a t-1 internet connection in 15-minute blocks as a service.

People started referring to the coffee shop as That Internet Place so we renamed it to That Internet Place.

indieterminacy, to fediverse

@ernest Ive been running parallel instances between both your technology & the one provides for my group

However in getting around to testing the interoperabilty from your side, I realize that the attribution is off:

https://kbin.social/m/xq_icebreaker@lemmy.ml

Naturally, you are not the owner for any of these groups but you are classed as such.
And datas off.

I get it that you are trying to grow your instance and tech but please do resolve these anomalies once things settle down.

losttourist, to fediversenews
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  • maegul,
    @maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

    @shelenn @losttourist you can use for this if you want to. Any community on lemmy (which are similar to sub-Reddit) functions much like a group.

    fabian, to php
    @fabian@floss.social avatar

    🔖 /kbin is an open source #reddit-like content aggregator and #microblogging platform for the #Fediverse

    ➡️ https://kbin.pub/

    :codeberg: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core
    📖 https://kbin.pub/en/docs

    #feddit #lemmy #ActivityPub #php #flutter #kbin

    maegul, to fediverse
    @maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

    @fediversenews

    One of the interesting things I've seen on the fediverse:

    blahaj.zone run both a and instance under the same domain/community. (I learnt this by running into @ada on lemmy, who is also @ada on calckey)

    See:
    https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/
    https://blahaj.zone/

    I don't know how effective it is in practice, but it sure seems like a great way to foster more diversity and richness in the fediverse experience, especially if some integrations can be built, like mutual ids.

    smallcircles, to opensource
    @smallcircles@social.coop avatar

    In "Proprietary stuff that nonetheless many devs use on a whim" news:

    Will folks at get a cold sweat when thinking of https://replit.com breadth of services and ?

    In "Hey there, is the future" news:

    Will arbitrary devs fall for the argument they better use a patchwork of tools rather than one-stop-shop integrated development experience?

    In "Wow " news:

    Will give proprietary SaaS the boot with integrated ?

    smallcircles,
    @smallcircles@social.coop avatar

    Some additional thoughts on this matter can be found in this post:

    https://lemmy.ml/post/1001183

    strypey, (edited ) to fediverse
    @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

    I wonder if MLS (Messaging Layer Security) would be useful for encrypting Direct Posts in the ?

    smallcircles,
    @smallcircles@social.coop avatar

    @strypey @hubert

    Just as a FYI.. pointing to the for Group federation, status FINAL:

    https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/feps/fep-1b12.md

    Discussion on : https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-1b12-group-federation/2724

    The FEP was written and proposed by @nutomic and implemented in .

    participated in the discussion by means of @ClearlyClaire but I do not know the extent to which Mastodon intends to be compatible, and if they will propose FEP's for their partiular Group implementation.

    0x1C3B00DA, to random
    0x1C3B00DA avatar

    Trying out (https://kbin.social). It's a link aggregator like /reddit/lobsters but also has microblogging support. Lets see if federation works

    atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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  • caos,
    @caos@metalhead.club avatar

    @atomicpoet What is the difference to #Lemmy ?@fediversenews

    atomicpoet, to random
    @atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

    Just got a comment from a fellow chastising me for talking about the Fediverse beyond Mastodon.

    He thinks we’re dropping the ball on Twitter migration by not focusing 100% on Mastodon.

    However, 30% of the Fediverse doesn’t run on Mastodon.

    Some server software, like Friendica, was on the Fediverse 6 years before Mastodon was created.

    Sorry we’re not shutting things down just because Twitter migrants recently showed up.

    sabret00the,
    @sabret00the@mas.to avatar

    @atomicpoet @oblomov with all that's happening with #Reddit now, we definitely need the focus to be on more than just #mastodon. #Lemmy, #PixelFed and all the others need love too.

    paul, to fediverse
    @paul@digitalstuntfactory.com avatar

    I was thinking earlier that it would be pretty cool to have an #ActivityPub-powered app that uses something like the old #WordPress #PostFormats feature that, in turn, supports post formats that other #Fediverse services use.

    For example, the app can post regular posts like this one, structured link posts that work with services like #Lemmy, galleries through @pixelfed and videos through #Peertube.

    Unless #ActivityPub automatically reformats posts based on what they contain when a user of services like these receives them in their feeds? I'm not sure how this works under the metaphorical hood. 🤔

    ParanoidFactoid, to internet
    @ParanoidFactoid@mastodon.social avatar

    Today on the it's been all Bluesky promotion all the time.

    If is promoting you can bet it won't be good for users.

    Also, its terms of service are super onerous:

    expertmanofficial,

    @ParanoidFactoid yeah, people better instead of sitting on ... they should quit , I think......free verification, free API access for any project you want (including and ) , so, there's should be no problem at switching.

    Right now, I'm using @trunksapp and pretty happy with it: LOTS of themes (as well as @semaphore does but better!) and Markdown support (does better then @elk ) and many other features that I like and enjoy!..

    No ads, full free, open source, glad be to be here :-)

    symfonystation, to fediverse
    @symfonystation@phpc.social avatar

    Enjoy our newest article: You say you want a revolution: help the free, fair, and friendly Fediverse destroy Big Social. https://www.symfonystation.com/Fediverse :fediverse: :mastodon: #Fediverse #ActivityPub #Mastodon #PixelFed #Friendica #PeerTube #FunkWhale #Owncast #Plemora #Lemmy #/kbin #Bookwyrm

    padraig, to fediverse

    I am always fascinated that I can take a link for a completely different platform (#Lemmy), stick into #Calckey or #Mastodon and have the ability to reply to it, boost it or whatever.

    Like, I have been using #Fediverse services for a few years on and off (Pretty much full-time since November 2022) but those small things make my mind go...

    🤯

    ed, to fediverse in Should separate instances of Lemmy be topic-based? What else, if not?
    @ed@battleangels.net avatar

    @cyclohexane @fediverse IMO Topical instances work best, it helps provide an identity and focus. Visitors to the instance see a local timeline of like minded posts, like minded communities e.g https://mander.xyz/ (Nature/Sci).

    There’s simply not the same tension with feeling the need to post relevant content to a local timeline as there is with Mastodon, because you are sharing directly to communities on connected instances as well.

    And because of the connected nature, instances can be small e.g. a knitting instance with only 10 users, connecting to a motorsport instance connected to lemmy main.

    gnulinux, to fediverse German
    @gnulinux@social.anoxinon.de avatar

    Fediverse-Serie - Foundkey: nicht nur Microblogging

    Foundkey ist eine Microblogging-Software, die aber nicht nur Microblogging kann.

    https://gnulinux.ch/fediverse-serie-foundkey-nicht-nur-microblogging

    caos,

    @crafti gnulinux selbst hat ja einen Mastodon-Account @gnulinux, daher ist diese Perspektive sowieso schon vertreten. Aber gerade die (noch) unbekannteren -Projekte vorzustellen ist ja das Ziel unserer Fediverse-Artikelserie !
    Hier sind auch immerhin schon 11 Projekte vorgestellt worden: &
    In Planung sind bereits: &
    Zu allen anderen werden noch Leute gesucht, die einen Artikel dazu schreiben. Vakant sind bspw. noch & . Es sollten Artikel aus der Binnen-Perspektive sein, damit es auch wirklich anschauliche Einblicke gibt. Das kann auch nur ein kleiner, bespielhafter Erfahrungsbericht aus User-Perspektive sein oder auch (wie u.a. jetzt bei dem Foundkey-Artikel) von Leuten, die das Projekt selbst entwickeln oder mitentwickeln und/oder Admin-Erfahrung haben.

    Hier im Podcasts ab ca. Min. 15 werden auch noch mal von @Lioh einige Hintergründe zum Fediverse berichtet, an dem sie auch selbst aktiv mitentwickelt hat (auch sehr aufschlussreich in Bezug auf die aktuellen Zentralisierungs-Tendenzen im Fediverse)

    Für alle Themen und Projekte gilt aber: gnulinux.ch ist ein Community-Projekt, an dem alle eingeladen und aufgerufen sind, mitzuwirken und selbst zu schreiben: gnulinux.ch/mitschreiben
    Je mehr Perspektiven hier eingebracht werden, desto besser! @Kaiteki @caos

    informapirata, to fediverse Italian
    @informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

    Sei un utente Mastodon e vorresti usare i gruppi/forum Friendica e le comunità Lemmy? Allora questa guida fa per te!

    @fediverso

    • Come funzionano i #gruppi/forum #Friendica e le comunità #Lemmy
    • Cosa sono queste utenze
    • Cosa rende diversa una comunità Lemmy da un gruppo/forum Friendica?
    • Come scrivere da #Mastodon un messaggio indirizzato a un gruppo/forum o a una comunità
    • Come trovare o creare gruppi/forum Friendica e comunità Lemmy

    @forum
    #MastoTips
    https://www.informapirata.it/2023/03/27/tips-mastodon-come-usare-i-gruppi-forum-friendica-e-le-comunita-lemmy/

    ajsadauskas, to fediverse in Lemmy shows how Fediverse-connected message boards can work. So is it time for a Fediverse-connected general purpose message board platform (like phpBB)? Is anyone working on this?
    @ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

    @ajsadauskas Across the internet, there's a host of niche communities on message boards and web forums, using platforms such as phpBB and its various competitors.

    Is there scope to get these communities on the Fediverse?

    Over the past couple of weeks, I've been trying out Lemmy (lemmy.ml ), which is basically a Reddit-like platform on the Fediverse. (For those reading this on Mastodon, this post is actually a reply to a post on Lemmy, meaning you can read it on Lemmy, on Mastodon, or elsewhere!)

    It's shown me that the concept of a Fediverse -connected discussion forum certainly can work.

    So is there scope to either add ActivityPub to any existing message board software platforms?

    Alternatively, is there scope to develop a fediverse-connected general purpose message board platform?

    Is anyone working on it?

    @tchambers @atomicpoet @LemmyDev

    informapirata, to fediverse

    La sola idea di inviare un messaggio da Pixelfed per vederselo ricondividere su Lemmy (una piattaforma così diversa) è qualcosa di esaltante!
    @fediverso
    Quando si parla di crisi di (crisi, peraltro inventata da blogger disinformati e in cerca di click) ci si dimentica di che cosa sia il e di come i recinti costruiti dalle grandi piattaforme centralizzate stiano per essere spazzati via dalla rete libera, federata e interconnessa!

    KelsonV, to Pixelfed
    @KelsonV@wandering.shop avatar

    Realized that my tinkering with #GoToSocial, #Takahe, #CalcKey and #Snac2, continuing to use #Pixelfed, #Lemmy and #Bookwyrm, and looking for compatibility problems are part of the same impulse that had me trying out every web browser I could find in the early 2000s and deliberately using Firefox and Opera on Linux as my daily drivers instead of IE on Windows.

    It's a drop in the ocean, but it's my push for interoperability over #monoculture.

    #Fediverse #BrowserWars

    KelsonV, to RSS
    @KelsonV@wandering.shop avatar

    I got tired of forgetting where the / are on various platforms and having to track them down, so I started a list.

    https://hyperborea.org/tech-tips/fediverse-feeds/

    Currently covers deep breath , , , , , & forks, & forks , , , , , and

    whew

    Feel free to let me know what I should add to the list (or any corrections I need to make) in a reply to this post!

    ada, to fediverse
    @ada@blahaj.zone avatar

    The more I use different #fediverse apps, the more I feel that we are on the edge of a different future, in the early stages of something that we haven't seen before.

    In the last few months, I've used #Mastodon, #Misskey, #Calckey, #Funkwhale, #lemmy, #Peertube, #Bookwyrm and #Pixelfed. Soon, I'm going to try an install of #kbin. In the not too distant future, we will see #GreatApe bringing more options for video chat to the Fediverse. There are countless more platforms that I haven't had a chance to try.

    The network formed by the interconnections between those apps is the Fediverse; a Federated Universe. Federated, because everything out there is connected with everything else, in one giant network. What I am truly beginning to appreciate is just how real that vision is, and just how disruptive to our future it's going to be. More than a truism, these the fediverse platforms really will allow us to see and interact with nearly anything else out there.

    The platform we use no longer determines the information we can access; it doesn't build walls around us. Instead, what out choice of platform determines, is how we interact with information, rather than determining what information we are able interact with in the first place. The walls in the walled garden haven't so much been torn down, as simply never built.

    I can write a blog post, and someone on Mastodon can reply to it. I can make a group post on lemmy, and someone from Calckey can reply to it. I can see an awesome photo on Pixelfed, bring it in to #Akkoma and boost it for everyone else to see. And then anyone who sees it can interact with it.

    The cross platform interactions are still imperfect. Standards are still being developed, code is still being written and features are still being defined, but the future is right here, we are on the cusp of something new and amazing.

    Of course, this is all old news to someone who has been part of the fediverse for years now, but it feels different now. The momentum is here, we are seeing a shift and I think once we cross that precipice, once we have normalised the cross channel interactions we are starting to develop, it's going to be very hard to go back.

    Honestly, I can't wait.

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