onepict, to random
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

For those who are hard of empathy in the back of the room.

It's not elitism to want to protect your community area. Or to refuse to take part in this social experiment.

It's community safety.

Taps the xkcd cartoon.

https://xkcd.com/743

jens, to threads
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de avatar

I think with the recent news about it's worth pointing out the existences of again.

https://fedipact.online/

I'm late to the party, I know. But I haven't actually seen it on my timeline, much to my surprise.

rain, to internet

Admin announcement:
As of today, this instance blocks known domains associated with Meta's , in accordance with the anti-Meta Fedi Pact (https://fedipact.online/)
In effect, this instance does not federate with the domains threads.net or threads.instagram.com. Further associated domains will be blocked, if discovered.

We are not personally against the users of Project 92, we are against Meta. We will not be giving them a chance. Their work is a threat to the Fediverse, as it has been a threat to other social spaces and open communities for years prior. They are not welcome in our homes.

Rairii, to FediPact
@Rairii@haqueers.com avatar

https://www.threads.net/t/CuRtcYTNY3J

lol

"We're committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren't able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it's coming.

If you're wondering why this matters, here's a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that."

promises are one thing. reality, when FB is involved is something different

MediaActivist, to Pixelfed
@MediaActivist@todon.eu avatar

Any nifty servers that actually block that evil Meta's Threads shite? I already feel like I'd need to take a long shower.

jebba, to random

Looks like mastodon.online is run by the same folks that run the main mastodon.social server. I'm gonna PLONK that too.

I'm also adding @oliphant 's blocklist to my single-user server based on the docs here:

https://writer.oliphant.social/oliphant/how-to-sync-up-blocklist-changes-from-trusted-sources

I had intended to set it up months ago, but I only had two small spam attacks in all that time, so it wasn't needed.

atomicpoet, to random

Maybe it’s due to being autistic but I have no idea how others perceive me.

For three years of my life on the Fediverse, I pretty much just talked to myself and was content with that. I would say whatever and it wouldn’t matter because nobody was reading anything anyway.

When someone responded to one of my posts, it was usually spam. When it was actually someone real talking to me, it was like speaking to a unicorn.

Then one day, people started talking back. And what’s more they gave a damn about my opinions. For what reason, I don’t know. They just did.

Because some people talked to me, more people started talking to me. And everything started carrying more weight.

The moment I realized that I crossed the precipice of influence was when, one day, I typed some Unicode into a post.

This got lots of accessibility advocates angry. They were specifically angry because I was deemed an “influential” account. So I cut it out and haven’t posted any Unicode that way ever since.

Because of this, I have become more and more careful about what I post on this account. For example, I used to talk about my personal life. Things that I thought were innocuous upset people. One particular time, I said that my daughter and I listen to vinyl every day. That post got lots of blowback, and so I’ve stopped sharing stuff like that.

Sometimes people assign motivations where there is none. Recently, people have suddenly assumed I have something against . This is not the case, and though I have not joined FediPact, I sympathize—and have even set up notmeta.social as a server that pre-emptively defederates Meta.

Constantly, I get messages asking if I have something against this person or that service. And almost always, it’s never. If you think I do, talk to me directly, and I’m happy to iron out any misunderstandings.

In my actual life, I do my best to avoid conflict—to the point it annoys people. If I genuinely don’t like someone, I don’t argue with them. I make it impossible for them to contact me.

If you can contact me, it means that I probably like you.

literalgrill, to internet
@literalgrill@sakurajima.moe avatar

I need more folks to know who are talking about #Meta or #Facebook joining the Fediverse that the company has coordinated with the federal government in the US to remove people from disability benefits.

No, I'm not joking. Many folks on disability know better than to EVER post pictures on that platform as they've been used against them. Or to ever talk about having a slightly better day for their ailments than usual. Having them spy on the #fediverse is NOT okay and will actively make this platform less safe for many disabled people. That #FediPact should be seriously considered.

xela, to Futurology German
@xela@troet.cafe avatar

Diese Aufregung über bzw. den finde ich schräg.

Manche Leute scheinen umgehend in ihre Schützengräben zu springen. Die einen sehen Meta als die einzige Rettung des Fediverse, die anderen als unmittelbar nahenden Untergang. 🙄

Leute, kriegt euch ein!

Dieses Schwarz-Weiß-Denken ist weder hilfreich noch überhaupt angebracht. Momentan gibt's eigentlich nur einen Haufen Gerüchte – sich aufgrund dessen so zu ereifern ist Quatsch.
Vor allem: attackiert euch nicht gegenseitig!

tfardet, to Facebook
@tfardet@fediscience.org avatar

I find @louis's take on how / may approach the Fediverse to be highly likely: https://emacs.ch/@louis/110592744496085427

  1. use a divide and conquer approach by proposing to the biggest instances to federate with them by providing money if they do
  2. follow up with the second and third steps of (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) more efficiently thanks to the first move

I hope big instance admins are aware of this issue (this was emphasized from the start as a fragile network dynamics).

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

There are some hot and appropriate takes going around about the "leadership" at the top of major fediverse projects, and its imminent failures. One of those leaders literally describes himself as a "dictator". Well, now his technology has a new dictator, one who has no credible pretense to benevolence.

It seems there are two kinds of FOSS-folk among us. One contextualizes their technical work with a political understanding; be it anarchism, socialism, or some variant of an oppositional outlook, which posits FOSS in an anticapitalist, antiracist or liberatory context. They know there's something out there to stand against, and aspirationally, replace. I salute them and hope we can all build together.

The other, while more-or-less into FOSS, seems to be motivated by nothing deeper than a "tech is neato" ethos. One could argue that it's this second type that has brought us to the crisis.

If tech has any chance to facilitate liberatory - or even alternative - agency (and it's arguable if that chance exists), it has to be about something more than itself. As we watch ActivityPub, Mastodon and Pixelfed get recuperated into the Zuckerverse, here's hoping we can figure out a way to sustain and support those developers of next-gen decentralized and peer-to-peer social networking who understand this

Natanox, to fediverse German
@Natanox@chaos.social avatar

Für jene Menschen im deutschsprachigen Raum welche keine Lust haben und ausgesetzt zu sein:

Es gibt mit mastodon.de von @ErikUden (dem knackigen Pfirchsich Mann - die Aussprache überlasse ich euch 😏) eine offene Instanz welche fest hinterm steht. Deren Hardware hält bestimmt ein paar hundert neue Nutzer aus.

davey_cakes, to FediPact

Well-intentioned people: let's wait and see if is, for example, a privacy nightmare

Facebook: we're not launching in Europe yet because right now it would be illegal

Right so.

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

Fediverse Communalism 1

For those interested in the prefiguration of dual power, there is a perfect opportunity right under our noses - the fediverse. Moreover, such praxis may not be so much of a choice, as a necessity. The forces of authoritarian and capitalist recuperation are coming for this network.

So far, it remains largely out of the control radius of corporations, government security services and the fascists poisoning every other online environment. But there are well-resourced elements both without and within working to change that.

Consider the contrast with major capitalist services. This recent story explains how the "U.S." government has attempted to extort a price from TikTok in exchange for allowing it continued operation in the country - its conversion into a domestic mass surveillance tool under the control of state security and military agencies.

https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-cfius-draft-agreement-shows-spying-requests-1850759715

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asahi_95, to random

I bet dark Fedi isn't gonna sign the ?

katzenberger, to threads
@katzenberger@social.tchncs.de avatar

is slowly getting ready:

"Provided that a Third Party User is followed by or following a Threads account, will ingest these pieces of data specifically:

Username
Profile Picture
IP Address
Name of Third Party Service
Posts from profile …"

https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/threads-new-terms-affects-the-fediverse/

Thank you, @milan, for taking care of this on social.tchncs.de

spaceraser, to random
@spaceraser@fosstodon.org avatar

Seeing as how we're all speaking out, I am moderately against @fosstodon joining . I could be persuaded still the other way, but it feels like a fundamentalist impulse, responding in fear to the threat of impurity. As a religious person, I'm maybe more sensitive to fundamentalism than non-religious people. Don't like it, can't support it.

angusm, to Facebook
@angusm@mastodon.social avatar

Still trying to make up my mind about rumored federation with Facebook/Meta.

On the one hand, I have a faint naive hope that this could be the Trojan horse that ends walled gardens forever & makes the rule.

On the other, has history & deep experience at enshittifying everything it touches. The proverb about “He who sups with the Devil should use a long spoon.” There may not be a spoon long enough to deal with .

CORRECTION: I was misusing the tag.

vantablack, to FediPact
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

FEDIPACT RAP (demo)

phryk, to random
@phryk@mastodon.social avatar

A point in the discussion I at least haven't seen talked about yet: Blocking meta by default in code.

I'm in the process of completely rewriting my datajournalism webframework and have repeatedly thought about fedi/AP integration – and at least for this, as a tool where privacy and security are somewhere between very important and absolutely paramount, blocking access by surveillance capitalist platforms by default seems like a very prudent thing to do.

vantablack, to FediPact
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

how long until threads threatens to or actually does start blocking mastodon.social for allowing nudity?

would dot social bend the knee in that scenario and change their policy? probably

https://help.instagram.com/914046486923176

Post photos and videos that are appropriate for a diverse audience. We know that there are times when people might want to share nude images that are artistic or creative in nature, but for a variety of reasons, we don’t allow nudity on Instagram. This includes photos, videos, and some digitally-created content that show sexual intercourse, genitals, and close-ups of fully-nude buttocks. It also includes some photos of female nipples, but photos in the context of breastfeeding, birth giving and after-birth moments, health-related situations (for example, post-mastectomy, breast cancer awareness or gender confirmation surgery) or an act of protest are allowed. Nudity in photos of paintings and sculptures is OK, too. People like to share photos or videos of their children. For safety reasons, there are times when we may remove images that show nude or partially-nude children. Even when this content is shared with good intentions, it could be used by others in unanticipated ways. You can learn more on our Tips for Parents page.
Sexually explicit or violent media must be marked as sensitive or with a content warning This includes content that is particularly provocative even if it may not show specific body parts, as well as dead bodies, bloody injuries, and other gore. Particularly obscene content may be prohibited entirely. Profile pictures and header images may not contain sexually explicit or violent media.

Natanox, to threads
@Natanox@chaos.social avatar

Is there a website that keeps track what instances are protecting their users from and which doesn't? Not everyone joined , yet many still blocked them. It would be nice to know how much of the Fediverse is save from Meta.

Also, dear 's, make sure to enable Authorized Fetch if your hardware is capable of doing so! That way your users' toots are actually (somewhat) protected against Threads' federation attempts.
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/config/#authorized_fetch

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

The Intentional Federation

We have recently been advocating the activation of a function which is present but usually off in Mastodon and other fedi services called Authorized Fetch. As we plead with the major development projects to take safety more seriously and make it a default, we have learned that Meta itself didn't think twice about it and has activated it in their own ActivityPub implementation against us.

We know this because of news that a fascist has devised a way to evade it and force federation with Threads. They promise to then turn their technique upon us and coerce unblockable federation with fascist and cryptospam instances: https://soapbox.pub/blog/threads-server-blocking/

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ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

What do you mean we won't be able to see ads from Threads? I've spotted one already

.

FediPact, to FediPact
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

MAKING THE FEDIPACT WEBSITE MORE ACCESSIBLE

some accessibility concerns with https://fedipact.online have been brought to my attention and i'm working on addressing them. more specifically, the readability of the color contrast and the animations

i wanna put a button on there that flips the text and background colors, making it hot pink on black, and disables the animated floating hearts (they're already disabled if the user has "reduced motion" on)

i just... don't have the web design skills necessary to do so lol. BUT someone else is working on it!!! so it should be fixed and better soonsies

thanks to everyone who pointed this out :heart_cyber_pink:​

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