Have been looking at #dat again, do you think we can build this:
The Open Media Network is a trust based, human moderated, #4opens project that builds a database shared across many peers (both #p2p and server). The project is more important for what it DOES NOT DO, than what it does do, using technology to build human networks. There are ONLY 5 main functions:
• Publish (object to a stream of objects) – to publish an object (text, image, link)
• Subscribe (to a stream of objects) – to a person or organization, a page, a group, a hashtag subject etc.
• Moderate (stream or object) – you can say I like/dislike (push/pull or yes/no) this etc you can comment.
• Rollback (stream) – you can remove from your flow (instance database) untrusted historical content by publishing flow/source/tag.
• Edit (meta data of object/stream) – you can edit the metadata in any site/instance/app you have a login on.
We would build in the moderation tools of the #Fediverse.
This is the back-end of the project to build a #DIY trust based, grassroots, semantic web. The front-end may be anything you like, for example regional-/city-/subject-based #indymedia sites to a distributed archiving project #makeinghistory
The data cauldron and the golden ladle. The technology we call the #WitchesCaldron.
@witchescauldron Another platform to consider is #SafeNetwork which is coming together right now. (For example, I'm looking into porting my earlier proof of concept for a an LDP interface (#LinkedData / #RDF) to the new API, and then some #Solid apps.)
I think what you propose would be feasible, certainly worth looking into because the platform has some unique characteristics and I think now would be the perfect time to start building for it. Fully autonomous #p2p#e2e#security.
"If you want to scale, you have to design with scale in mind. #atproto makes several interesting choices in order to distribute the load of running the system more onto the actors that can handle load, and less on those that can’t. This way, applications running on top of atproto can scale up to large userbases without issue.
That’s the hope, at least. Earlier this week, #BlueSky hit five million users, and is far more stable than Twitter was in the early days."
@josemurilo
The #SafeNetwork is non-VC backed, autonomous and #p2p (no servers, gatekeepers, intermediaries or walled gardens) and is designed to scale without developers having to add infrastructure - so any individual can create a killer app and have it scale. This levels the playing field for both developers and users.
Oh, and it isn't a social network but a platform on which apps like that can be built, along with all manner of other apps and services.
Today I've had a few remainders of how much I dislike how the software industry is funded. Its mostly ads, or stepping in as unnecessary middlemen. Sometimes we coerce users to pay, but that's negligible. Or we push the problem off by telling a good story to venture capitalists.
Really we need to rework our economic system. We need systemic change.
But until then: Pay for the things you benefit from online, especially when you're not coerced to!
@alcinnz #SafeNetwork aims to help this. It is autonomous #p2p, so no gatekeepers or walled gardens that meditate between developers and users of software and services.
Built-in (non-Blockchain) token economy that everyone uses to pay to store on the network and rewards those providing resources such as apps or storage.
Crucially also:
a level playing field for developers because apps scale without the need to pay for extra infrastructure. So no need for VCs, anyone can participate.
Are "hard links" important or a nice to have in a filesystem?
I'm trying to assess possible feature compromises for a #decentralized / #p2p based #filesystem that can be mounted on multiple machines, so any views on the usefulness of hard links with examples would be appreciated.
One such compromise here is merging of changes made from different devices, that will be much harder with hard linking.
I know VERY little about this topic. But it has occurred to me that P2P could vastly reduce the need for insanely sized data centers and, subsequently, the environmental footprint of data.
Yes? If so, why isn't it used more widely? Not a good fit? Practical issues? Commercial interests? Political control?
@terjefjelde the main reason IMO is that it's hard, and by its nature is not getting the development money that centralising models can attract from VCs etc al.
However, things are coming together IMO. Several #p2p projects are coming to fruition, and one of the good impacts of the crypto sphere has been a source of money to support some of this work (cf. #libp2p).
I've been following one, #SafeNetwork for a decade which is close to launching with unique promise (no Blockchain).
Apparently, Tumblr's CEO stepped on his crank and outed himself as a TERF. We does not abide the TERF. No we doesn't.
If you're fleeing #Tumblr and checking out the #fediverse, welcome! I hope you find a home here. You have quite a few options with #Mastodon, #Miskey, #Firefish#Sharkey (I'm posting this from sharkey.world), and the practically thousands of instances within those. Each have their own flavor and features, so don't feel you have to settle on one off the bat. It's not unusual to see new users sign up on one instance, then eventually move to another, then another before they find the community that fits them best.
Looking for something more "bloggy"? Bear Blog and Pika are two services offering simple blogging tools with an emphasis on "small blogging". They are unassociated with the major blogging platforms and offer a fresh alternative to them.
btw here is something cool - the 3 of us watching on @monsterdon were making the #p2p thing of peertube happen. i was a little behind because i kept going back to watch scenes again, so i mostly downloaded from whoever was ahead rather than uploaded, but like this is so sick to me because if it had to serve the whole movie to everyone it probably wouldn't be able to handle many more than this, but with p2p we can basically have as many people watching as we want.
first pic is from like 2/3 of the way through the movie, second is from the end, so most of that server download happened at the beginning when i was the only peer. #monsterdon
@gordon
Make fun if you like but it shows that #federation doesn't have what it takes to #decentralise power and operate with consent of individuals.
We're still beholden to server owners.
It's the same problem that opt-in consent laws have begun to push back against, and it matters here even more where the whole point of #fedi is supposed to be preventing those kinds of abuse.
This is why I say the #fediverse is a lifeboat and #p2p will be the shore.
Hey fedifolks! I was hoping to get some bikeshedding feedback on a new #FEP we're working on at #DistributedPress.
tl;dr we want #ActivityPub objects to link to #P2P URLs for alternate ways to load them. Right now I'm debating between putting them in alsoKnownAs or into the url field. e.g. "alsoKnownAs": ["<ipns://staticpub.mauve.moe>"] for @mauve
I worry that field is already in use and that it could cause trouble. Would a new field name be better? Maybe alternateURL?
Imagine what amazing user respecting collaborative apps we could have on a #p2p network with a range of #CRDT / #LocalFirst data types.
That boggles my mind because right now apps are dominated by corporate imperatives and we have so much more imagination to put into a truly open peer-to-peer ecosystem.
Now, back to trying to understand how to use the #Rust#CRDTs crate in #SafeNetwork's mutable data types. I'm working on an example to print the history of a RegisterCRDT and my head hurts!
@serapath that's an interesting one as torrents still technically work, and the infustrcurtue is still online, though riddled with ads and SPAM. So while technically this is still functioning, it is socially degraded and pushed into the shadow by the #dotcons like Netflix and Amazon Prime etc.
"* #p2p was the poster child of the era of the #openweb it was caught in the quicksand of legal issues, the shadow that was left was eclipsed by "free to use" #dotcons Now finds it hard to come back due to mobile devices not having an IP address, thus most people not actually able to use p2p reliably."
An example of this, my torrent client is regularly blocked by my mobile internet provider - I live on a boat, and yes I do get round this but most people would stumble when this happens.
After QuicNet blazed itself to the ground, we’re back with a network that Does not encrypt data at nodes. (In order to see how much that contributed to mem-spikes we saw). Derives payment keys from the PeerId key, so restarted nodes should be able to accept payments now. Has more logs Here we’re looking to see How this lack...
Sadly missing the first day of a @linkml hackathon, going to be making up for it by releasing a small package for constrained arrays in pydantic models and code generators for linkml's new array syntax, then starting to hack on array encoding schemas to allow a given dataset to be encoded in arbitrary format while still fitting the abstract schema spec. A new kind of metadata enriched #p2p awaits! Towards a plausible alternative to The Cloud for structured data
An Invitation to what comes next (safenetforum.org)
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NoEncryptionNet [07/02/24 Testnet] (safenetforum.org)
After QuicNet blazed itself to the ground, we’re back with a network that Does not encrypt data at nodes. (In order to see how much that contributed to mem-spikes we saw). Derives payment keys from the PeerId key, so restarted nodes should be able to accept payments now. Has more logs Here we’re looking to see How this lack...