Fediverse

noellemitchell,
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

According to FediDB, monthly active users on the fediverse have dropped to 1,005,573 😳 Looks like they might drop below 1 million if the downward trend continues.

https://fedidb.org/

noellemitchell,
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

@retrohondajunki Yes I agree. Not sure if they'll join though.

mpjgregoire,
@mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca avatar

@noellemitchell It's strange how shows the numbers of users and servers going up and up, but the number of MAU going steadily down. Maybe there's a miscalculation somewhere.

@fedidb

grishka,
@grishka@mastodon.social avatar

I'm adding new profile fields to , so I would like to ask the fediverse about what kinds of contact info one would expect to be able to add to their profile. So far I've seen:

  • Personal website/blog
  • Matrix
  • XMPP
  • Telegram
  • Signal
  • Phone number
  • Twitter
  • Email

I've not yet seen these in fediverse profiles but they are mainstream enough that won't hurt to add:

  • Instagram
  • Facebook
  • VKontakte
  • Snapchat
  • Discord

Is there anything I missed?

Mehrad,
@Mehrad@fosstodon.org avatar

@grishka
I'm not sure Iif I've got the gist of what you are planning to do, but my understanding is that you want to add dedicated fields in the user's profile for their social contact info. If that's the case, then I wonder why jot letting the user to define the field names? Something similar to what mastodon does. The benefits are:

  1. User can define the order
  2. It is future-proof and any service can be added
lutindiscret,
@lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com avatar

@grishka

thisismissem,
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io avatar

Is there any software that allows instances to be at different pathnames, instead of different hostname / port combinations?

Like:

https://social.example/foo => one instance

https://social.example/bar => a totally different instance

As far as I know no, but I'm looking at the spec, and I'm not sure there's anything in there about this?

jenniferplusplus,
@jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io avatar

@thisismissem there's a lot of assumptions that the domain provides a sort of namespace. Like, it would be pretty hard to share the webfinger path, or nodeinfo.

evan,
@evan@cosocial.ca avatar

@thisismissem there's nothing in there about it. Instances aren't even a thing in the spec.

shadowwwind,
@shadowwwind@fosstodon.org avatar

The is probably better at building filter bubbles (showing you content you agree with) than traditional social media.
Your home feed really only shows you opinions from people you follow. Who follows people they don't like?

For sites like Twitter somebody suggested the term "filterclash", they serve content you don't agree with to increase engagement like commenting or quote posting to dunk on people.

The Fediverse is probably more similar how discussions are held in offline...
1/X

shadowwwind,
@shadowwwind@fosstodon.org avatar

How popular other opinions are. I Germany very very recently and a really big protest wave against racism and fat right oriented people were pretty confused on how many people attended these, how many people have a different opinion to them. In their bubble the opinion that racism is bad is just not prevalent so they expected its not.
And tbh same for me, every time their is an election I wonder who would vote for AFD or CDU. I personally know just a single person.

Telegram often because...
3/X

shadowwwind,
@shadowwwind@fosstodon.org avatar

Supposedly there are a lot of extremest and conspiracy believes. Telegram up until very recently had no algorithm at all. (Now just small, pretty hidden recommendations for similar channels) You just follow channels and groups you are interested in and they might refer your to more.
This filter bubble behavior is probably what makes this possible.

DavBot,
@DavBot@nerdculture.de avatar

let's make fedi-NPC-livestreaming a thing:

"oooh decentralization! YUM YUM IN MY TUM TUM!"

"I REQUIRE MORE MILKSHAKES TO FIGHT FASCISM! HURRY"

"Algorithm? Here let me fix that for you..."

DavBot,
@DavBot@nerdculture.de avatar

@Mrfunkedude
To be honest, my partner would murder me if she heard me doing that shit on repeat for penny donations. It's not worth it, no matter how much the world wants to see me twerk to catchphrases.

Mrfunkedude,
@Mrfunkedude@mastodon.social avatar
Aakerbeere, German
@Aakerbeere@mastodon.social avatar

💬 Vielfalt im #Fediverse

Schon gewusst?
👉 Der Bundesgerichtshof ist im FEDIVERSE

@BGH_Bund

Aakerbeere,
@Aakerbeere@mastodon.social avatar

@hpower immer 😂

@BGH_Bund

hpower,
@hpower@mastodon.social avatar
hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

Some of the areas where I am most critical of #ActivityPub are areas where it is clear that the design is focused around how to represent the world rather than how a healthy system behaves.

Basically the focus is almost entirely on "how do I describe what humans are doing?" Sometimes in great detail, but very little emphasis is on "what is required for a set of health distributed nodes to talk to one another successfully."

smolwaffle,
@smolwaffle@union.place avatar

@hrefna
Ohhhh I suddenly understand

It's a network protocol written by people who are everything online through the lens of Semantic Web. Including, probably, HTTP.

hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@smolwaffle Yup, thats a good way to think of it.

It's like if I were to develop a programming language that gave you infinite expressibility (within English, separate problem) about objects, but didn't give you any tools to manipulate those objects.

So you can say "Carl Tells Jane that Alice Wrote a Note to Bob" but you can't write a basic server because you can't confirm in a consistent way that it was ever actually sent to Jane, let alone that Jane received it.

weirdwriter,

Any other let’s plays that also publish their work as a podcast so I don’t have to hack a method of turning YouTube channels into podcasts? I know about gorillas play through but I’m looking for others. I turn all YouTube channels into podcasts anyway to avoid the ads and other cruff, but anything on #PeerTube? #Gaming #Games #YouTube #Podcasts #Podcast

weirdwriter,

@zersiax I don’t so much needed to be in a podcast format, just a more open format like peertube, so I can put the feed into my podcast app of choice

zersiax,
@zersiax@cupoftea.social avatar

@weirdwriter this might be of use https://github.com/i3arnon/YouCast. Not sure how up-to-date it is

kakafarm,
@kakafarm@emacs.ch avatar

The Balkanised Activitypub Federation (BAF…?) is a great source of frustration. I have a friend, @kolev , and he's having a hard time following me. I know the answer is probably "technical limitations", but why do server owners have any say on what their users may or may not read? That's abhorrent.

Eventually I would have to copy my Nostr keypair here and find a good piece of software with which to use it.

#activitypub #censorship #nostr

kakafarm,
@kakafarm@emacs.ch avatar

@dekkzz76 I have a suggestion - a path of diplomacy and reconciliation. You can't see it, but I am rolling my eyes. babka.social and emacs.ch can attach a dynamo and maybe create enough power to repay their shared hosting bills. What do you think?

dekkzz76,
@dekkzz76@emacs.ch avatar

@kakafarm

anything is possible ;)

cliffwade,
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

Good morning and happy Sunday to all of you here in the today.

Let's talk about what today has in store for each of us as well as what the long weekend, if you have it, has in store.

For me, it's just a lazy, relaxing day with some video games thrown in here and there I believe.

stu,
@stu@allthingstech.social avatar

@cliffwade Good morning 🌞

cliffwade,
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

@beardedtechguy Lazy days are important and super nice to have. Enjoy the race and the coffee and hopefully the school work is super easy.

mstankiewicz, (edited ) Polish
@mstankiewicz@pol.social avatar

Zastanawiam się jakim powodzeniem cieszyłoby się znajdowanie drugich połówek w #Fediverse?
Ciekawy temat, bo mimo tego, że jest tu zaledwie 5 osób (hehe) to jego lwia część ma podobne zainteresowania (technologie i inne techniczne tematy), choć różne poglądy

mstankiewicz,
@mstankiewicz@pol.social avatar

@radpanda oczywiście! Dlatego zastanawiam się jakie szanse w tej dziedzinie ma #Fedi w porównaniu do #Facebook czy #X, ale też do #Tinder

radpanda,
@radpanda@pol.social avatar

@mstankiewicz Z jednej strony większy nacisk na interakcje społeczne przez brak algorytmów, z drugiej strony znacznie mniejsza pula… z trzeciej strony nie ma dnia żebym nie zobaczył posta o podtekście romantyczno-seksualnym pomiędzy użytkownikami.

Ergo, trudno uogólniać w przypadku takiego projektu jak fediwersum 🙃

deep,
@deep@signal.dadalo.pl avatar

@mkljczk dwie rzeczy nie pilne ale przeszkadzające w codziennym używaniu i sugestia poprawki ->

  • ikona edycji posta w mobilnym gdy już się edytuje / pisze powinna zniknąć, gdyż zasłania obszar edycji.
  • Druga rzecz też mobilne. Przy dłuższych postach dodanie ikony jest niemożliwe, ponieważ pole wyboru ikon wykracza poza obszar ekranu.

nie sprawdzałem czy jest to zgłoszone do poprawki... rzucam.

deep,
@deep@signal.dadalo.pl avatar
mkljczk,
@mkljczk@fediverse.pl avatar

To ja zazwyczaj tworzę wpisy z poziomu modalu, tam nie przeszkadza mi ten przycisk

HailsandAles,
@HailsandAles@metalhead.club avatar
lautmaler,
@lautmaler@metalhead.club avatar

@HailsandAles not sure if you consider singles, if so... you missed something like this:

Vermilia "Nocturne"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4NOunnaTA

#Atmosphericblackmetal

HailsandAles,
@HailsandAles@metalhead.club avatar

@lautmaler LPs only

gbhnews, (edited )
@gbhnews@mastodon.social avatar

🌞 Good morning #fediverse! This is GBH #News bringing you the world from #Boston. It's 58F at Logan and visibility is 10mi.

Former President Trump was convicted of 34 felony counts in a New York court yesterday. He is the first former president to become a convicted felon.

House legislators on Beacon Hill are urging the state Senate to see the urgency behind approving 205 new liquor licenses for Boston.

Mexico's federal archaeology bureau says the arm of a mummy fell off during handling.

gbhnews,
@gbhnews@mastodon.social avatar

@lampsofgold This is a good question and I don't know the answer. I had to really compress the text here, so I want to clarify that the federal bureau named did not mishandle the mummy; the federal authorities are blaming local officials in Guanajuato.

gbhnews,
@gbhnews@mastodon.social avatar

A note on the liquor license story: historically, liquor licenses in Boston have been very restricted, and can't be changed by the city itself; it has to go through the state Legislature.

The small number of liquor licenses has left many restaurants in Boston's Black and brown communities without options to serve alcohol, which is typically very important to the profitability of those businesses.

The deets: https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-05-30/house-approves-205-targeted-new-alcohol-licenses-in-boston

J12t,
@J12t@social.coop avatar

This may well turn out to be an extremely important article for adoption of the beyond its current niches.

https://digiday.com/media/why-publishers-are-preparing-to-federate-their-sites/

J12t,
@J12t@social.coop avatar

@liaizon As adoption of the Fediverse hopefully grows from the current niche of a couple of million or so technology enthusiasts into the next phase, the language will and must change. It will change again if/when the Fediverse makes it across the chasm into the mainstream.
So IMHO it's all good.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@J12t oh yes I agree the language must and will change. though I don't personally think this is the direction for it to change in

gutenberg_org,
@gutenberg_org@mastodon.social avatar

Today, we just completed one year at !

Thanks for all your support @gbnewby, @gluejar , @gutenberg_new, @lhamilton1515

gutenberg_org,
@gutenberg_org@mastodon.social avatar

@ottaross Thank you!!

scottytrees,
@scottytrees@mastodon.social avatar

@gutenberg_org Congrats! Hope to say the same thing for year two!

LibertyForward1,
@LibertyForward1@beige.party avatar

I just want to say that one thing the has consistently shown me is that no matter how much time and effort I put into my accounts here, I am consistently rewarded far more than my effort both literally and metaphorically, by some of the most generous and gracious people with whom I've ever had the privilege of conversing.

LibertyForward1,
@LibertyForward1@beige.party avatar

@Alice, @BobWilliams, @zymenchlora, @GayDeceiver, @HCBunny, @theropologist, @JoParkerBear, just to name a few - these are just some of the people here that have stood by me and my little family, several of whom going as far back as when I arrived during the Great Exodus of '22.

LibertyForward1,
@LibertyForward1@beige.party avatar

I will never cease to marvel at how my life has been enriched since I joined mastodon and the .

This is the sort of connection I've sought in vain for three decades. The respect, the validation.. It's like magic.

I guess this is my love note to you all. Thank you for being my friends.

beardedtechguy,
@beardedtechguy@allthingstech.social avatar

Good morning #Fediverse friends! Hope the day is going well for you so far.

Let’s take a brief moment and have our #KoffeeWithKyle chat and see what we all have planned for today.

I’m currently setting up my mom’s computer at my house before I take it over there and hook it up. Sippin on my fresh ground coffee while doing so.

Not much else planned for today. I do need to turn in my final schoolwork for this class though.

#GoodMorning #HappyMonday

Kancept,
@Kancept@allthingstech.social avatar

@beardedtechguy @cliffwade nice! Hopefully headache-free days for you both. I’ll be enjoying my last day off until I start a new job tomorrow. Was laid off and haven’t had work for 10 months now. Tomorrow will also be the first time I have a child go to daycare. Gonna be a few more firsts tomorrow, so gonna be as stress-free today as we can be!

cliffwade,
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

@Kancept It's definitely been a headache-free day here. I don't know what I had for 2 - 3 days, but it wasn't fun in any way.

Congrats on the new job! What will you be doing?

Crazy and scary to go without a job for 10 months but glad you're back at it.

Enjoy the firsts that will be happening tomorrow and hopefully the kid does well at daycare.

@beardedtechguy

mrcopilot,
@mrcopilot@mstdn.social avatar
mrcopilot,
@mrcopilot@mstdn.social avatar

@Mrfunkedude Had similar thought.

Like we all hate having to click edit and reject all non essential, but don't take the button away.

At least change the label to Desperately Acquiesce

Mrfunkedude,
@Mrfunkedude@mastodon.social avatar

@mrcopilot right? And what personal settings on their website do I have when I haven't registered with them???

digitalcourage, German
@digitalcourage@digitalcourage.social avatar

"Wir müssen weg von Plattformen von Milliardären und brauchen Social Media in Nutzerhand."
sagt @padeluun auf der
Das basiert (wie E-Mail) auf offenen Schnittstellen und ist deshalb nachhaltiger und wird bleiben.

jd,
@jd@social.ksite.de avatar

@digitalcourage Ich kann das nicht erkennen. Für viele ist die Auswahl eines Servers schon zu viel. Alle Erklärungsversuche an der breiten Masse oder auch bei Freunden scheitern. Das selbe Phänomen wie bei Messenger-Diensten. Im Wallet-Garden ist's beengt aber für viele gemütlich. @padeluun

Weltenkreuzer,
@Weltenkreuzer@social.tchncs.de avatar

@jd @digitalcourage @padeluun "Wallet-Garden" ist ein erstaunlich treffender Vertipper... ;)

gbhnews, (edited )
@gbhnews@mastodon.social avatar

🌞 Good morning ! This is GBH bringing you the world from . It's 74F at Logan Airport and visibility is 10mi.

The Mass. Senate passed a $58B budget despite the fact that a fire alarm went off and everyone had to leave the building.

On this day in 1934, outlaws Bonnie and Clyde were killed by police.

Airports and roads are likely to be jammed this weekend ahead of the Memorial Day holiday.

This weekend:

gbhnews,
@gbhnews@mastodon.social avatar

Have been loving the Harbor Bot, which tweets photos and locations of boats in the harbor, based on sites like MarineTraffic.com.

In case you want to peek and/or follow: https://airwaves.social/@bostonharbor

Kevin,
@Kevin@doyle.boston avatar

@gbhnews ooooooOOOOOOoooooo thanks for sharing

quillmatiq,
@quillmatiq@mastodon.social avatar

"The Verge and 404 Media are building out new functions that would allow them to distribute posts on their sites and on federated platforms – like Threads, Mastodon and Bluesky – at the same time. Replies to those posts on those platforms become comments on their sites."

If you're not looking at @theverge and @404mediaco as social web platforms that are hosting hand-picked content creators with a publisher's infrastructure, you're not paying attention.

https://digiday.com/media/why-publishers-are-preparing-to-federate-their-sites/

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@quillmatiq @theverge @404mediaco

awesome. we have to stop thinking about the fedi as a bunch of decentralized alternatives to the closed platforms, but AP as a social layer on top of the open web. that's where we become a threat to the vulture capitalists. the next step is to integrate the comment handling of lemmy/kbin/reddit. mastodon should do this too.

artlung,
@artlung@xoxo.zone avatar

@quillmatiq @theverge @404mediaco It's slightly eerie to read this on the same day I read @ricmac referencing when his site ReadWriteWeb integrated social comments (twitter primarily) into his site (Internet Archive Link, 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080704160608/http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/readwriteweb_integrates_friendfeed_comments.php ) ... I wonder what lessons, if any, could be gleaned.

operationpuppet,
@operationpuppet@mastodon.content.town avatar

Happy 4th birthday (first commit) to @owncast! Thank you @gabek and all the contributors for your hard work. You’ve made the web a better place.

gcspitfire,
@gcspitfire@mastodon.social avatar

@gabek @operationpuppet a nice piece of software indeed! cheers! 🍻

gabek,

@gcspitfire Thank you!

hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

This statement is going to live rent-free in my head for a long time to come, I suspect.

draNgNon,
@draNgNon@hachyderm.io avatar

@hrefna screenshot or it didn't happen

-every gamer ever

db0,
@db0@hachyderm.io avatar

@hrefna still the only way to share meme-potential posts from mastodon to lemmy. It's shouldn't have to be this way

dlakelan,
@dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Today I spent several hours trying to help a friend think up ways to take control of the messaging for his dance organization. It's more or less just him running it at the moment but it's on the order of 100 people who are interested and sometimes come to his dance events. Right now it's communicating mostly through Facebook and Instagram. We talked about ways to make a website, forum, blog, sell subscriptions, calendaring 1/

dlakelan,
@dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

It quickly became obvious how much "enclosure" there is in tech. You can't even add a webcal .ics file to your android calendar! (Not directly, requires login to desktop Google calendar). And you can't export a Google calendar as an ics! (At all). In any case lots of companies want to be the middleman in your business eventually taking a huge chunk of revenues for what is essentially a trivial service.

We looked at , , , and .

dlakelan,
@dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Anyone have thoughts about what kind of tech stack could help run a sort of club/business that has regular and special events, needs a public calendar, list of members, reserve spots in limited classes, take credit cards for tickets/door fees, post pictures and let people talk about the events, maybe have discussions about lessons or techniques or videos or music playlists or whatever other dance related stuff people might want to talk about... Probably other stuff we would need.

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