As an #Asian myself, I'm happy to see that ideas, developers, and software from #Japan are going mainstream. There are a lot of things the West, and the world for that matter, can learn from Japan.
Not only from the Japanese, to be exact, even from #Korean made software. I talked about last year how #Korea created its own Internet culture that not even #Google and #Microsoft can compete with. (See: #Naver's amazing interconnected platforms; what Google would have been if they had a vision.)
Pleroma itself also have a lot of forks, though not as much as #Misskey and #Mastodon. One such is #Rebased.
You can give the Rebased fork a try over at https://c.wtf featuring the #Soapbox frontend. (#DidYouKnow that the Soapbox frontend originally started as a custom frontend for Mastodon?)
We've been discussing these issues, amongst others lately in the Fediverse-City room on Matrix, what with the relative demise of Meetup.com following its acquisition by WeWork, and the rise of *events over at Faceplant further obviating them having much to do with a plethora of event management projects exploding onto the scene for the past couple of years.
It's been a while since I've visited #Faceplant, so long in fact, I only recently became aware a couple of years ago that they had a marketplace that has largely supplanted craigslist, and finding out just today that they in fact have some sort of events system - that speaks volumes, I think, toward my dedication to dogfooding my #FOSS and simply ignoring, for the most part, there are still some privacy disrespecting operators in the deprecated monolithic silo space of social networking.
#Mobilizon, #Hubzilla, #Rebased, and #Friendica have their own take on how these event management systems should #Federate through the rest of the #Fediverse, while others mentioned in the article below, including #WordPress try to fit into that niche in a cooperative, interoperable way... and it's paying off. Bigtime.
It's a good read, events are powerful for hobbyists, technologists, sports enthusiasts, and just about any kind of IRL or remote attendance awareness and organizing; so it only stands to reason that #DeSoc, and social networking in general include the capabilities to seamlessly propagate events as globally possible.
At the very least, events are heralded as one of the best ways to get free pizza 🍕 and beer 🍺 with others that have common interests. After a veritable shitload of funding from many sources, including NGI0 and even larger corporate sponsors, we're approaching a place where anyone with a Fediverse account, even on the smolweb or most obscure platforms like Threads, will be privy to things like announcements, RSVP, alerts, Etc., of upcoming events, regardless of whether your Fediverse platform of choice directly supports event management.
And it is perhaps a little ironic, that #Threads users themselves will likely have at their disposal, an event notification and management capability in direct conflict with the one that Meta wants them to use - I dunno how that's going to work out, but I think it's pretty kewl that nobody else does either at this time.
#tallship#Fediverse_City#NGI0 h/t to @silverpill for the heads up on the following article, he just always seems to know where that rabbit is hiding in the tophat and pulls it right out when it's most needed, lolz.
> you need your own server quinn how much do they cost
someone irl told me this :blobcatlaugh:
yeah i dunno actually. i'm not sure either how does that work. are you allowed to have rules different from wizard's den and not get everyones accounts banned or something :blobcatwaitwhat:
@icedquinn You're asking the right questions here man.
The rules can be whatever you want them to be, and your server can likewise cost as much or as little as you want, it's just gotta be powerful enough to run #Mastodon or #rebased or sumn
#Streams galaxy
-- note 1: communication with the Fediverse is standard practice in this universe.
#Hubzilla galaxy
-- note 1: developed a way to communicate across the Mycelial Web (a.k.a. the multiverse). Can also communicate with BlueSky and diaspora.
#Friendica galaxy
-- note 1: developed a way to communicate across the Mycelial Web (a.k.a. the multiverse). Can also communicate with BlueSky and diaspora.
#X#Twitter Mycelium (closed borders; isolated; have not discovered there are other mycelium/universes besides their own)
#Tumblr Mycelium (closed borders; isolated; rumours has it their government decided against connecting with the other mycelium/universes, but they are aware)
#Flickr Mycelium (closed borders; isolated; aware of other mycelium/universes)
What would make Mastodon prominent social media platform in regular people's eyes when it's not any of these (opposing opinions in parentheses):
Mastodon is free and open source (means nothing to the people)
Many known people use Mastodon (not enough or not the right people)
14 million users (clearly not "enough" when compared to centralized services OR not the right people)
Activity and engagement from a personal perspective is way better than in other services (a subjective opinion or a "bubble" doesn't prove anything for anyone)
Better features (what good are they when nobody notable uses Mastodon and the service is nothing)
It's been active for a long time and Fediverse is vast (who cares about that, it's for the tiny communities and for nerds)
You just choose the server, create an account and start using it (too complicated and weird)
@matthewmuses@rolle I only saw a handful of posts about the #NFL over the past 24 hours. I suppose I should think about following hashtags, although my main account is on a #rebased instance, which doesn't support hashtag following.
While the above examples can be used for images, Pixelfed was built for, well, images. It was made to cater for uploading photos ah sharing your digital artworks.
Meanwhile, Bookwyrm is best for, can you guess it? #Books! It features bookshelves where you can categorise your collection. You can also track your reading. Leave reviews. #Authors can too, if they want.
It's no different to comparing the old #Twitter vs #Facebook vs #Instagram vs #Goodreads. All of it can host photos and albums, but Instagram is focused on sharing images. Twitter for #microblogging. Facebook for socialising (or ads). Goodreads for books and reviews.
The difference? The latter are disconnected. While the former, the fediverse, are interoperable.
#Threads won’t support Activitypub or the Fediverse at launch, but it’s apparently still coming.
“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming”
@Brendanjones It'll be fun trying to implement that on #Meta's end, I don't think #Mastodon, #rebased, or compatible software is likely to comply, so non #Meta users will be able to respond to all #Threads posts lol
So… welcome to new users in the #Fediverse network!
If you are exploring the fediverse through the #Mastodon software, feel free to explore other platforms like #Streams#Calckey#Hubzilla#Friendica#Akkoma to mention a few, for your usual “status updates” (and more) UI/UX.
If you want a platform more focused on photos and images, then there is #Pixelfed. Or, you want bookshelves and tracking what you've read, or leaving #book reviews, there is #BookWyrm.
But the beauty of it all, all of these are connected to the fediverse. You can follow any user regardless of which software they are using; AND regardless which server (domain name) they signed-up for.
All these “fediverse browsers”, like Lemmy and Kbin, are commonly referred to as fediverse software. (extra info: Wikipedia calls Lemmy, Kbin, and similar answers-type or Threads-type software as “Link-aggregators”.)
There is no “Mastodon network”. There is no “mastoverse”. There is no “threadiverse”. There is no “Threadinet”, or whichever -verse / -network people are coming up with.
Any software that is using the ActivityPub protocol is part of the “Fediverse network”. Just like how any software that uses the HTTProtocol is part of the Web.
That clear so far?
Now, we go to your question.
Q: I moved to lemmy.world and have noticed that lemmy.ml has been popping up as another featured instance. What differs from lemmy.world vs lemmy.ml? Is .ml more active?
lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are called instances (the terminology used to refer to a fediverse server/service). These two are only two out of many fediverse instances available. In paritcular, these two instances are only two out of probably a hundred Lemmy-based instances available.
What differs between the two? As far as features and functionalities go, none. Since these two Lemmy-based instances are using the same software, they have the same set of features. The only difference would be if one instance fell behind in Lemmy version upgrades.
Since lemmy.ml is one of two flaship servers of the Lemmy software project, naturally it will get the bulk of registrations and content.
For example, before the Reddit Migration, there were already existing communities for many similar Subreddits, and many of those are in lemmy.ml and are very active. So, when Subreddits started to migrate, some chose lemmy.world and other lemmy instances. Which allowed lemmy.world to catch up with the number of users and number of active communities that lemmy.ml already have. AND, some of these are about the same topics/fandom.
It depends on how you look at it. There are thousands of fediverse servers, and there are at least a million active users in total.
Based on the context of this discussion thread/branch, those Lemmy servers mentioned would not even fall near the “dominating the network”, they are very far from dominating the fediverse network.
But, if you are referring to “Reddit-like / Stackexchange-like / Quora-lack”, then sure, those servers mentioned are “dominating” the “answers UI/UX” space. However, the fediverse doesn't work like that, and you probably won't even notice it while using any fediverse software.
In the fediverse, #Lemmy and #Kbin servers acts like a group. If you have used #Chirp and #Guppe groups (chirp.social and a.gup.pe respectively), then Lemmy and Kbin servers works similarly.
If I post to a Lemmy “community” or to a Kbin “magazine”, that post will be re-shared/boosted/re-posted to everyone who subscribed/followed that community/magazine. Anyone who replies to that post, it will be re-shared/boosted/re-posted also.
In other fediverse software, it will just appear as a regular status update thread. In Lemmy and Kbin, it will appear as a comment to a certain post.
It's the same for, say, #BookWyrm. The flagship BookWyrm server is “dominating” the “bookshelf UI/UX” space, however, outside of that, it's just another software. The only difference is that with BookWyrm, you get a shelf, track your book reading, leave reviews to a specific book, and so on.
However, everything else are the same… if you leave a comment or posts an update about the book you are reading, it is no different from using #Calckey, #Hubzilla, #Friendica#Misskey, #Rebased, #Akkoma, #Mastodon, #Pleroma, to post a new update that “I am not at page 879 of the book ‘Shaka. When the Walls Fell’.”
And as far as the fediverse is concerned, BookWyrm is far from “dominating” the network.
Still amused by all the posts declaring that "#Mastodon will never get any traction" because it doesn't have [insert completely unnecessary Twit feature here]. It's like people think Masto just suddenly appeared out of the ether six months ago. It's been here for years, and it's just fine. 😂
I think it's safe to say that only Mastodon opens uses its local cache to open a remote profile. Other software, regardless if they have a local cache, opens the URL since it starts with https: and not a webfinger.
All these talk about #BlueSky and complaints about #Mastodon this, #ActivityPub that, #Fediverse this, and #Decentralisation that, are mostly questionable(?) since many haven't seriously looked around the fediverse. It's like saying burgers are bad because you've tasted McDonald's yet there are better burgers from #Jollibee.
The problem stems from the fediverse ending up unofficially represented by a very limited-feature software and most are not willing to do their due diligence (one would think they'll check out the forks at least). Before championing about the new kid on the block, before claiming that the fediverse is this and that, look around first.
What you've known as the fediverse, so far, is only based on what happens to be the software with the least feature set. Mainline Mastodon will get better, but it is what it is currently, as far as comparison with similar fediverse projects.
No one is saying you are not allowed to complain, just look around first before you make claims about the fediverse.
Also, no one is saying #ATP shouldn't exist. By all means develop it! Innovation and improvements come from seeing ideas come to fruition instead of staying as theories. Having different branches of development is better than getting stuck in one particular way of doing things, or line of thinking. It's all good and I think anyone will agree it is much welcomed.
Here's a #challenge: Since you have time to research a non-fediverse network, why don't you explore what the fediverse really has to offer, with the same effort and enthusiasm? Mastodon is not the fediverse, so you can not judge the fediverse based on it. That's like saying China is Asia, and you judge Asians because of mainland China.
Take the challenge, then publish the results of your journey. Good evening, and Shalom!
Soapbox imo has to be one of the nicest front-ends for pleroma/mastodon style activitypub platforms, but it was intimated there were some reputational issues with it. Not up to speed I did a small amount of digging which led to plermoadrama....
@_ed Drama is maybe within their community of developers. #Pleroma doesn't deserve to be reviewd by it's developer's personal point of view, but by it's functionality which is great #fediverse platform. Also #rebased good, so who cares about drama...
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Soapbox imo has to be one of the nicest front-ends for pleroma/mastodon style activitypub platforms, but it was intimated there were some reputational issues with it. Not up to speed I did a small amount of digging which led to plermoadrama....