rolle, (edited ) to internet
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

If Facebook and Instagram were to join the Fediverse and you could follow users from that world from your instance, would you do it?

Boosts appreciated. I'd like to know the current consensus of the Fediverse.

atomicpoet, to internet

Point blank, a mass Fediblock isn't going to work with #Meta.

The cold truth is that people will use #Barcelona whether it federates or not. Even if it fails, Barcelona will probably have more users out of the gate than almost every project save Mastodon. Hell, it will probably eclipse #Bluesky too.

And even if you convince every server to defederate -- which you won't -- this will not be a PR coup for the Fediverse. Newspaper headlines won't blare "Fediverse successfully resists Meta." Instead, they will probably follow @gruber take with "Open source zealots complain that an open protocol is open."

Again, as I've said countless times, I'm not saying you should federate with Barcelona or any Meta-owned property. If you want, defederate. The joy of the Fediverse is freedom of association.

But a mass Fediblock doesn't solve a few important problems with Meta, and perhaps makes them worse.

The most critical problem is that Meta users need to migrate away from Meta-owned social networks. Until now, a migration path has simply been unfeasible to most. But when Barcelona gets launched, it is possible that many of them will become aware of a greater Fediverse.

How to build that awareness? By interacting with them through services beyond Barcelona.

This approach works. I've interacted with many Mastodon users through services beyond Mastodon, and this has resulted in adoption of other Fediverse software. #Calckey is a case in point.

However, there's a bigger problem concerning Meta: Fediverse replacements for Meta-owned social networks aren't getting mass adoption. And it's not because these apps aren't good.

#Pixelfed is an #Instagram replacement. It is also one of the slickest apps on the Fediverse. Yet, Pixelfed only has 150,000 registered accounts.

#Friendica is a #Facebook replacement. It's been around since 2010. It is a mature product that does many things very well, but Friendica only has 17,000 registered accounts.

The software is great but we are failing to effectively market the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Now I'm trying my darnedest to change this, and so are many people. But facts are facts. Fediverse alternatives to Meta are a blip on the radar.

Refusing to federate with Barcelona won't change this. How do I know?

Because we don't federate now, and the status quo remains intact.

Meanwhile, Meta is practically gifting Pixelfed and Friendica an opportunity for federation, and it would be foolish to not consider broader implications.

How is it that more people aren't considering this opportunity?

Dare I say that most people -- including devs -- suffer from myopia concerning what the Fediverse is. The Fediverse is not Mastodon, and it is wrong to view the Fediverse solely through the eyes of Mastodon.

And I'll go further: by focusing Barcelona on text, I suspect that Meta is likewise making the same mistake of viewing the Fediverse as a "Twitter killer".

What they may not be considering is that the Fediverse might be a "Meta killer" too. And connecting Barcelona to the Fediverse is opening a can of worms Meta hasn't entirely considered yet.

If Barcelona is indeed text-based, what will happen when a Barcelona user encounters Pixelfed and asks, "Why does this post show reels? And why can't I do the same?"

Believe me, this is the kind of content that triggers migration.

We need to think bigger than Fediblock. Yes, for your own mental health and safety, you may not want to federate with Barcelona. However, there needs to also be a means for Barcelona users to encounter content outside Barcelona.

Perhaps there needs to be "lobby" servers that help Barcelona users enter the greater Fediverse -- helping them make the switch beyond Meta.

m0bi13, to Facebook Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

Meta, , :

"Aby zachować zgodność ze zmieniającymi się przepisami europejskimi, wprowadzamy nową opcję subskrypcji w krajach UE, EOG i Szwajcarii. W listopadzie zaoferujemy osobom korzystającym z Facebooka lub Instagrama i mieszkającym w tych regionach możliwość dalszego bezpłatnego korzystania z tych spersonalizowanych usług z reklamami lub wykupienia subskrypcji, aby nie widzieć reklam. Dopóki użytkownicy są subskrybentami, ich dane nie będą wykorzystywane w reklamach."

Przypominajka: jest bez reklam, bezpłatne, nie śledzi, nie ściemnia algorytmami, nie obcina zasięgów, nie obraża się za linki w treści, nie każe Ci spędzać z nim całego dnia. Wybierz sieć społecznościową mądrze ;)

100 osób obserwujących na fedi daje więcej niż 1000 na FB. Bo te na fb i tak nie dostaną Twoich treści...

Całość:
https://about.fb.com/news/2023/10/facebook-and-instagram-to-offer-subscription-for-no-ads-in-europe/

rolle, (edited ) to internet
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

What other (centralized) social medias you are using? (even the slightest)

You can select multiple answers (not on Ivory in case it still has the bug where it picks the one you touch)

Boosts appreciated.

aral, (edited ) to Facebook
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Folks, the reason / / / Zuckerberg hasn’t launched in the isn’t because the EU is determined to protect your privacy, it’s because the EU is determined to protect The Single Market (peace be upon it) from anticompetitive behaviour. It’s because they’re using Instagram to launch Threads and sharing data between them (and not with EU startups that might want to use that data too). It’s , not . It’s markets, not people.

Some_Emo_Chick, to tech
@Some_Emo_Chick@mastodon.social avatar

This might help explain the spectacular launch of Threads

#Tech #technology #socialmedia #meta #instagram #Threads

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

Interesting new details have emerged concerning planned machinations for Meta's takeover of the fediverse. The information was revealed at a "data dialogue" in San Francisco on the subject of "Meta’s Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse".

An account at this blog post: https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/

And more info in this Masto thread: https://mastodon.cloud/@joemcl/111566221062518491

It seems that the plan is to gradually roll federation out in stages over the next year. The most telling reveal is in the screenshotted toot by Meta advocate Evan:

"Also, as far as I could tell, the most important use case for them is that a creator could move from Threads to their own server, even if they get de-platformed. I think the major motivator here is Mark Zuckerberg having to go testify in front of Congress twice a year or whatever, and getting grilled by conservative Congresspeople about de-platforming. Being able to say, you can get kicked off Threads but keep your followers, is a big win in this situation."

If correct, the impression here is that Meta is interested in ActivityPub's account portability, so they can offload problematic fascists to the fediverse without too much disgruntlement. They see the fedi as a dumping ground into which they can externalize toxic users without having to either moderate them on their own server, or provoke them by wiping out their social graph.

In Zuckerberg's scheme, our community is to become a landfill for fascism.

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oblomov, to internet
@oblomov@sociale.network avatar

I barely just finished posting about 's responsibility in killing off (and in what sense exactly) <https://sociale.network/@oblomov/110395233362332095> that Meta aka confirms its upcoming competitor codenamed will “interoperate with ” (i.e. will support )

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janeadams, to fediverse
@janeadams@vis.social avatar

THREAD: I made a series of images for an Instagram post I made about migrating to the fediverse. I figured I'd share with anyone else who wants to use, so I included some blank template versions too. DM if you'd like the Adobe Illustrator file so you can make your own edits. And please,comment if I got anything wrong so I can correct it.

(1/10)

Natureshadow, to internet

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SrRochardBunson, to trans

👋 to all of my & friends. We need to talk about the cis-het progressive/liberal problem, and I hope that you might be able to help me get through to the ones in my life.

I spent a few days with some old friends that I haven't seen in a while. At one point, Jason Aldean and both came up in conversation. These people are solid voters that hate all things . They also happen to be Jewish, which I would think should make them sensitive to .

They don't watch or any other right wing bullshit. They do, however, consume & feeds daily. It was their impression that trans people are forcing other people to use pronouns and make special arrangements for them. They also think that people uncomfortable with trans people should be free to bunk at camp in a cabin without trans people in it.

I 💯% know and believe that but how can I more effectively pierce their myopic bubble?

🙏 Thanks

cliffwade, (edited ) to fediverse
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

Have you given Threads, an Instagram App, a try yet?

Please BOOST for maximum exposure to the

taylorlorenz, to meta
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social avatar

IG/Meta has been inserting the word "terrorist" into the bios of users that included the words Palestinian" and “alhamdulillah” (which means praise to Allah, or God) https://www.404media.co/instagram-palestinian-arabic-bio-translation/

muiiio, to Instagram
@muiiio@mst.muiiio.com avatar

@Zir0h Hola! I wanted to ask if Pixelfed.eu supports the archive import ☺️

kristian, to instagramreality

Meta has started rolling out Threads, the Twitter competitor that was previously known under project names such as Barcelona and P92.

For now, it's only available in a few countries: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.instagram.barcelona

Here are some pictures of what we can expect.

@socialmedianews

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leodurruti, to Facebook Italian
@leodurruti@puntarella.party avatar

Bella la proposta di Meta alle autorità di controllo dell'UE. Se gli utenti europei non vogliono rinunciare al proprio diritto alla privacy garantito dal Gdpr, e cioè non vogliono che la propria attività su e sia utilizzata per creare pubblicità personalizzate, possono decidere di pagare una tassa di 13 € ca. al mese (160 € ca. all'anno) per utilizzare le due app :0080:

Preparo una balla di pop-corn?

https://mastodon.social/@noybeu/111170383531560529

Just had my first interaction with Meta Services last night. Thought I'd share what I learned.

I was up late last night and we know how that goes - rabbit holes. This time I was trying to find some ways to make my phone feel a little snappier and possibly eliminate the issue I was having where my recent apps button stops working until I restart the phone. On Android 13 I found that if I changed to gesture based navigation...

bobiko, to Instagram Polish

Szef instagrama deklaruje, ze android jest lepszy od iOS w kilku aspektach. Tyle ... żę nie przekłada sie na jakość opublikowanych aplikacji, jak również na ilosć zaawansowanych funkcji, które można spotkać w appleowskich odpowiednikach.

Gadać to każdy możę.

cc: https://onetech.pl/szef-instagrama-jest-pewny-android-jest-lepszy-od-ios/

ophiocephalic, to FediPact
@ophiocephalic@kolektiva.social avatar

With the Zuckerberg takeover impending, there's a lot of confusion circulating about the use of user-level and instance-level blocks, and how our online expressions can be secured against Meta. Everyone who objects to their accounts being mined by the Zuckerberg entity for data collection, AI ingestion, monetization, and possible ghost-profile building needs to understand this problem. Here's information to clarify.

Neither a user-level block, or an instance-level block, will protect our posts from Meta data-mining by default on a Mastodon instance. Posts won't be delivered directly, but can be ingested by other means; if, for example, users on Meta-federated instances boost them.

However, both user and instance blocks will totally prevent post delivery in all cases IF your host instance has enabled the functionality called Authorized Fetch.

By default, Authorized Fetch is off on Mastodon instances and most haven't turned it on. If this concern is important to you, you might want to respectfully reach out to your admins and let them know. Remember that they are working hard to provide and sustain online community at no charge. It's likely they won't be very familiar with it and will need time to look into it.

For more information on Authorized Fetch, check out this blog post by @brook : https://hub.sunny.garden/2023/06/28/what-does-authorized_fetch-actually-do/ Please untag Brook from replies unless you specifically intend to address him

BlumeEvolution, to Instagram German
@BlumeEvolution@sueden.social avatar

Guten Morgen - Tässle Kaffee ☕️?

Am letzten Tag des vergehenden Jahres möchte ich Euch über eine Kritik bzw. Warnung zu mir informieren. Ein Typ schrieb auf , ich sei ein „bibeltreuer Gutmensch“, der seine „Anständigkeit zur Schau stellt.“ 📚😈

Haltet Euch also besser fern von mir, sonst SEGNE ich Euch noch! 😃😇🖖

Noch da? Allen, die es weiterhin „mutig“ mit mir aushalten: Danke 🙏 & einen guten Rosch!

https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/bibeltreuer-gutmensch-meinetwegen-guten-rosch-und-hazlacha-uwracha/

pjap37, to Instagram French

La différence majeur entre L'Instagram :BhjFlag_Progress_Intersex_Left: et le Mastodon :BhjFlag_Progress_Intersex_Right: :
Mon mari sur :BhjFlag_Progress_Intersex_Left: :
– Lui j'ai vu sa bite ;
– Lui j'ai vu sa bite ;
– Lui j'ai vu sa bite…

Moi sur :BhjFlag_Progress_Intersex_Right: :

– Lui j'ai vu son chat ;
– Lui j'ai vu son chat ;
– Lui j'ai vu son chat…

mastodonmigration, to random
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

#ThreadsNews July 6, 2023

WTF... To delete #Threads you also have to delete #Instagram

Vice: Threads Instagram 'Trap' Shows Why Facebook Should Have Been Broken Up Years Ago >>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjvb5/threads-instagram-trap-shows-why-facebook-should-have-been-broken-up-years-ago

TechCrunch: Threads profile can only be deleted by deleting Instagram account >>> https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/06/threads-delete-profile-instagram-meta/

“I deactivated my threads account already but it turns out you can’t delete your threads account without also deleting your Instagram account so maybe just don’t sign up!”

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