Interesting new details have emerged concerning planned machinations for Meta's takeover of the fediverse. The information was revealed at a "data dialogue" in San Francisco on the subject of "Meta’s Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse".
It seems that the plan is to gradually roll federation out in stages over the next year. The most telling reveal is in the screenshotted toot by Meta advocate Evan:
"Also, as far as I could tell, the most important use case for them is that a creator could move from Threads to their own server, even if they get de-platformed. I think the major motivator here is Mark Zuckerberg having to go testify in front of Congress twice a year or whatever, and getting grilled by conservative Congresspeople about de-platforming. Being able to say, you can get kicked off Threads but keep your followers, is a big win in this situation."
If correct, the impression here is that Meta is interested in ActivityPub's account portability, so they can offload problematic fascists to the fediverse without too much disgruntlement. They see the fedi as a dumping ground into which they can externalize toxic users without having to either moderate them on their own server, or provoke them by wiping out their social graph.
In Zuckerberg's scheme, our community is to become a landfill for fascism.
#Threads sta testando la federazione con mastodon per alcuni profili selezionati.
Per ora è disponibile il Capo di Instagram/Threads @mosseri.
Se ci cliccate sopra vedrete che #mastodonUno avvisa i suoi utenti dei rischi nel collegare il proprio profilo con un social legato a facebook/Instagram.
La scelta è vostra: siete liberi di seguirlo, ignorarlo o bloccare per intero threads.net per essere totalmente isolati dai social di Zuckerberg.
I just had a look at #Meta's recent press release about #Threads, and something caught my attention right away.
For the very first time, they're acknowledging another #Fediverse platform alongside #Mastodon. Specifically, they're highlighting that #WordPress can now connect through #ActivityPub.
Now, you know Meta's PR department doesn't say things by accident. So here's why this is a big deal. Last time I checked, WordPress powers a whopping 43% of the Internet. Yeah, you heard that right! If you visit a website, there's a good chance it's using WordPress as its CMS.
Now, if even a fraction of those WordPress sites start federating, it could have a huge impact on the network effect of the Fediverse. Of course, Meta isn't oblivious to this. I've been talking about the potential of WordPress and ActivityPub for quite some time now.
But if you're particularly observant, you might also notice that they mention #Tumblr. We've known for a while that Tumblr is likely to integrate ActivityPub into their platform.
But here's an interesting tidbit: Did you know that one company, Automattic, not only owns Tumblr but is also the driving force behind WordPress?
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but once again, PR departments don't just drop hints randomly. I have a strong feeling that Meta has been having some high-level discussions with Automattic about the future of ActivityPub. It wouldn't surprise me if Meta has some insights into Automattic's upcoming plans for the Fediverse.
Having read and participated in the #Threads defederation debate, and I’ve noticed that there are two quite different projects going on in the #Fediverse, and they don't have the same goals.
The first is about creating a social network that is a nicer or safer place to be. A place with far less trolling, harassment, and fewer dickheads.
The project has has pretty much achieved its goals. Why federate with Threads? It will just bring threadheads causing trouble. Growth is not important.
The notes and accounts from the FediForum in late September suggest that some of "the people who move the fediverse forward", as the conference promotes itself as platforming, are also acutely interested in moving forward the agenda of Meta.
The forum's notes tell the tale. Though a number of topics, including many of genuine benefit, were touched upon, digging through the sessions turns up a path of breadcrumbs that leads straight back to Palo Alto.
Anyone knows of a #Mastodon app that allows you to do drafts one or more #threads ? (Not facebook - actual threads) @feditips ? 🙏
Edit: to be more specific: I’d like to be able to create a thread in the app, so a sequence of posts (not just 1 post) that can each have text, images etc. and are in a specific order, and if need be save it and come back to update it later, and eventually post it.
Also, I am using iOS and desktop (Windows). If you check the comments you’ll see that Fedilab seems to allow this but for Android.
I’m happy to see Threads starting to federate with Mastodon and other ActivityPub networks!
Open standards are good, and honestly, I have a ton of friends already on Instagram and Threads that would never join yet another social network, but I’d still love to keep up with them and their lives without having to use Threads. Federating via ActivityPub enables exactly that.
With Meta beginning to test federation, there's a lot of discussion as to whether we should preemptively defederate with Threads. I made a post about the question, and it seems that opinions differ a lot among people on Kbin. There were a lot of arguments for and against regarding ads, privacy, and content quality, but I don't...
👉 Wieso die teilweise ablehnende Haltung auf #Mastodon ein Fehler ist
👉 Wieso Threads uns und die Netzkultur offenbart
👉 Welche Daten Threads im Vergleich zu #Bluesky & Mastodon sammelt
I see a lot of posts on fediverse trashing reddit, Twitter, spez, musk and so on, and rightfully so. But like it or not, the mass majority of users on the internet still use these sites, and some of us still want to interact with the friends and communities we are a part of on those sites. And there's nothing wrong with that...
so, I learned that #threads can not only get your posts, even if you blocked them (via different servers that didn't and that store your posts cus people there may follow you or interact with you), they can also monetize those posts by showing ads next to them. Thus making money off of you. Put that together with all the genocidal and fascist and other harmful activity. It makes me think that the #enshittification of the #fedi has begun. The cycles seem to move faster and faster. I love it here and I've had many elightening convos and beautiful connections. Today I read that 41% of servers have blocked threads. Maybe there is still hope.
Esp. the neurodivergent community on here is the best I've ever experienced. @actuallyautistic
The results are in around the #Meta / #Threads poll I put out a week ago and over 8.2K people have voted, thank you all❤️
The recent App Store screenshots from the 'App Privacy' from Meta's new app Threads have concerned me and with the current status the question remains if it's even allowed within Europe
The chance that they will ever federate with us remains the question but with their current platform as-is we are gonna block them until many things improved
If you’re on mastodon.social, I would highly recommend that you switch to a different server that protects its people instead of exposing them to a well-known bad actor like Facebook/Meta via Threads.
And remember that Mastodon is not the fediverse. The fediverse is much more than just Mastodon and definitely more so than mastodon.social and Mastodon gGmbH.
I find myself using #mastodon less and less, because nobody sees my posts, and following has slowed to a crawl.
Meanwhile I get dozens upon dozens of #Threads notifications every day and in a few weeks my account there has thousands of followers. @Gargron, we need to talk about what this says about algorithmic feed placement...
Stop Using Threads consumes a list of users and tells you which of those users interact with Threads. You can use it to remove Threads participants from your timeline.
You can find out the tool's opinion on you by entering your own name, or you can just Submit with default settings to find out about Gargron.
Mentre all'interno di sociale.network sento solo voci di gente contenta di essere protetti da #Threads, difensori del "free speech" estranei alla community si lamentano perché blocco una azienda privata implicata in genocidio, e a loro dire starei limitando la libertà degli utenti con una tecnocensura unilaterale che rende l'internet meno aperta e libera. Mi consolo pensando che comunque usando sofware libero, e avendo migliaia di piattaforme alternative, chiunque è libero di andare altrove.
Leggendo questo post sembrerebbe piuttosto verosimile che la fruizione di #Threads dal Fediverso sia migliore rispetto a quella che si avrebbe utilizzando Threads dall'app e dal sito ufficiale!
Questo è un elemento su cui bisognerà riflettere quando Threads farà accedere al Fediverso anche gli utenti italiani.
Vale la pena continuare a defederare o anche solo silenziare qull'istanza? Oppure sarà più lungimirante tenere i porti aperti?
Co-founder of Twitter joins new Mastodon board of directors. Right, so federating with Threads wasn’t a mistake. This is just the direction Mastodon is going. Oh, well. Another Mozilla emerges.
A case for preemptively defederating with Threads
With Meta beginning to test federation, there's a lot of discussion as to whether we should preemptively defederate with Threads. I made a post about the question, and it seems that opinions differ a lot among people on Kbin. There were a lot of arguments for and against regarding ads, privacy, and content quality, but I don't...
There's nothing wrong with using Reddit, Twitter, and other mainstream site still while being active on fediverse.
I see a lot of posts on fediverse trashing reddit, Twitter, spez, musk and so on, and rightfully so. But like it or not, the mass majority of users on the internet still use these sites, and some of us still want to interact with the friends and communities we are a part of on those sites. And there's nothing wrong with that...