atomicpoet, Wired says #Bluesky is the space for “the Internet elite”.
So what they’re saying is that #Bluesky is for status seekers and clout chasers.
You know, the spot for media gatekeepers to pad their articles with social media posts that say something to the effect of, “This!” and “This!” and “You, sir, just won the Internet!”
hankg, PS this is what I mean about the MSM and tech press jumping on the Bluesky hype bubble. It's complete with really shitty clickbait headlines like "Bluesky's best shot at success is to embrace shitposting" or "'BlueSky' wants to market itself as a 'Musk-free' space, says CEO". I can almost see the alien bat baby on the cover of Weekly World News supermarket tabloids when reading these search results LOL. Honestly this feels like an episode of the HBO show Silicon Valley almost at this point. #bluesky #msm #technews
z428, German @anders You're welcome. This one works with Friendica at least on my system, but not on mobile Firefox. 😔
@hankg @anubis2814
anders, en-us @hankg @anubis2814 @z428 yeah same here. works on desktop but not mobile. would be great to have it for mobile too
williampietri, Reading about #bluesky, it's impressive to me how little Jack has learned.
As somebody who (briefly) worked at Twitter on anti-abuse, the place is a goldmine of lessons on fucked-up behavior. And the CEO comes out of the cryptocurrency space, which also has a rich history of garbage people run wild.
But instead of something that applies any of that, they have apparently produced the same sort of tired neoliberal marketplace-of-ideas horseshit product that Twitter was to start.
williampietri, I haven't used it, but from what I've read, Bluesky launched with no block button, and possibly no moderation at all. Which is unconscionable.
Maybe in 2006 you could pretend that the Internet was a nice place of hugs and rainbows. (That was untrue; even founders of the earliest social web sites in the mid 90s have abuse problems, and they were the same problems seen in the pre-Internet social computing spaces.) But today acting like 4chan doesn't exist is just announcing you aren't serious about abuse.
williampietri, So in conclusion, I think #bluesky is off to a terrible start and that nobody should use it. I get that Jack is persuasive and good at fooling people. As a recovering Twitter user, I also get that people just want those feelings back.
But as things stand now, Bluesky looks like it will be worse than Twitter in terms of abuse, and that will fall disproportionally on marginalized people. Ask yourself if you want to lend your personal slice of credibility to that. Whether you want to generate free content for a billionaire, the same billionaire that fucked this up last time.
evan, So, open message: if you're from #Meta and you are working on this #P92 service, you should contact the #W3C #SocialCG to work on compatibility with #ActivityPub.
We're excited about your project and we're here to help.
fifilamoura, @evan This seems like the most constructive approach to me (though clearly there's absolutely no consensus around all of this, a lot of competing desires and a lot of fear of change...though I'm not sure how people think they can stop an open protocol from evolving and changing, other than building a wall around their own garden, which is fine if what someone really wants is a closed web experience, which may be entirely appropriate in some cases!).
evan,
pallenberg, Es hat wirklich ein gutes halbes Jahr gedauert, aber inzwischen bin ich echt clean!
Damit meine ich vor allen Dingen dieses ausufernde Mitteilungsbeduerfnis! Auf #Twitter habe ich am Tag locker 50 Tweets abgesetzt, diese zum Teil geplant...
Hier auf #Mastodon reichen mir 2, 3 Toots und die Interaktionen mit euch. Ich lese so viel mehr und das was ich hier lese, ist verdammt angenehm.
Mastodon muss nicht das naechste Twitter werden, sondern einfach Mastodon bleiben!
pallenberg, German @Tomm2135 und genau das ist es... wir brauchen nicht diese Mega Community. Diesen vermeintlichen Marktplatz.
Und ich glaube auch, dass dies die Zukunft von Social Media ist
Tomm2135, German @pallenberg Also davon bin ich auch fest überzeugt.
ebinger, German #FediverseModerationsTreff zum Thema
#Meta blocken oder föderieren?Beim 6. #FediverseModerationsTreff wollen wir mit euch zusammen über die Situation rund um #Project92 und eine eventuell zukünftig stattfindende Zusammenarbeit einiger Fediverse-Instanzen mit der geplanten #Meta-App sprechen, die mit Mastodon interagieren kann.
Organisiert von @ueckueck @ebinger und @w4ts0n
Anmeldung und Infos: https://termine.social/events/bfb53037-43a3-4807-80f9-13d83e809f71
kkarhan, German
ebinger, German Wir freuen uns sehr, dass @stux zugesagt hat, beim #FediverseModerationsTreff morgen Abend (20 Uhr) dabei zu sein. Bisher sind auf termine.social 11 Personen angemeldet, macht gerne nochmal Werbung, damit wir uns gemeinsam eine Meinung bilden können zum Umgang mit #Meta im #Fediverse
#project92
stux, Oh my... This is just.. :flan_laugh:
#Twitter is becoming a graphic circus
All those badges.. is the dude like 6 years old or something
elpeque_29, @stux Would be better to add a pink star next to the verified and whatever that tweeter icon means.
kayhanserdar, @stux What is wrong with Elon? What is his problem? I really mean it. It's a serious question. I don't get this guy.
GottaLaff, #Trump’s Truth Social platform has lost $73m since launch, filing shows
Platform posted loss of $50m in 2022, with net sales of just $1.4m, and lost $23m in first half of this year, with net sales of $2.3m #SocialMedia
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/14/trump-truth-social-financial-losses
JBShakerman, @GottaLaff Truth Social’s financial failure is further evidence that Trump himself would have failed but for the support of the fascist billionaires like Koch, Murdoch, and Mercer who call the shots in the #gop.
Just_Tired, @GottaLaff
Now, we know of two things Devin Nunes is unqualified to do.
chiefgyk3d, I’m noticing threads is missing quite a few features #Meta #threads #fediverse #mastodon
elessar, German @chiefgyk3d As I expected they rushed the release to profit off of the #twittermigration
chiefgyk3d, @elessar I mean can you blame them? We didn’t know if Twitter will be off next year or next week 🤣🤣
greenback, Die Verlagsgruppe Rhein-Main, #VRM hat heute in der Allgemeinen #Zeitung verkündet, dass auch sie ihre Aktivitäten bei #Twitter pausiert. Als Gründe wird u.a. der Missbrauch der Plattform für private Zwecke angegeben, und dass freier #Journalismus dort nun unmöglich sei
Link zum Artikel: https://www.allgemeine-zeitung.de/wirtschaft/wirtschaft-deutschland/twitter-vrm-pausiert-alle-redaktionellen-aktivitaeten-2481087
OrntLaOkro, @raccoon Ja bitte, weiser Mann, erleuchte mich. Ich kann selbst nicht so gut denken, deshalb bin ich immer froh, wenn mir jemand was erklärt.
Meine Güte, wie arrogant kann man sein...
raccoon, Wie arrogant man sein kann? Lass uns gemeinsam in einen Spiegel schauen.
Arroganz hat viele Gesichter und deins ist gerade die Prämisse anzunehmen, dass du gar nicht Unrecht haben kannst.
Aber bitte. Machen wir es umgekehrt. Erklär du mir warum Gendern richtig und wichtig ist. Vielleicht liege ich ja falsch.
GottaLaff, #SupremeCourt blocks restrictions on #Biden administration efforts to remove contentious #SocialMedia posts
The Biden administration had called a lower court injunction “unprecedented” for restricting officials’ ability to raise concerns about problematic social media content on issues like Covid-19.” #SCOTUS
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-blocks-biden-social-media-curbs-rcna105785
GottaLaff, 2/ Via @emptywheel:
NBC WILDLY misstates what this is about, basically vomiting up fascist claims unfiltered.
Mike Walker:
Supreme Court blocks restrictions on Biden administration efforts to remove contentious social media posts
GottaLaff, 3/ NBC issued a correction, but my damn phone sent me nowhere.
The headline from CNN: "SCOTUS lifts restrictions on Biden admin communications with social media companies"
ajsadauskas, The thing about Twitter is that it really lacks a lot of the features you'd expect from a true Mastodon replacement.
For example, there's no way to edit your toots (which they, confusingly call "tweets"—let's face it, it's a bit of a silly name that's difficult to take seriously).
"Tweets" can't be covered by a content warning. There's no way to let the poster know you like their tweet without also sharing it, and no bookmark feature.
There's no way to set up your own instance, and you're basically stuck on a single instance of Twitter. That means there's no community moderators you can reach out to to quickly resolve issues. Also, you can't de-federate instances with a lot of problematic content.
It also doesn't Integrate with other fediverse platforms, and I couldn't find the option to turn the ads off.
Really, Twitter has made a good start, but it will need to add a lot of additional features before it gets to the point where it becomes a true Mastodon replacement for most users.
freeformz,
bezorp, @xian @FlyingTrilobite yeah definitely not as easy
rodhilton, I realize the mistake in posting this to Mastodon, whose whole deal is decentralization...
But I had a thought. One of the things people seem to like most about #BlueSky right now is just that you can post jokes and memes and stuff without being bombarded by hatred. And that's because nobody invited the trolls.
So... what about a totally invite-only social media platform? Invite-only, forever.
The trick: if someone gets banned, the person who invited them gets banned too.
bjorn, @rodhilton Someone said that Clubhouse worked like that. I don’t know whether it’s true.
dagmar, @rodhilton That seems like a pretty sound plan, actually.
danyork, Two more questions that I would love to hear perspectives about (either or both):
1- what do you see as the biggest ways the #Internet potentially contributes to #ClimateChange ?
2- what do you see as the ways the Internet can help address #climate issues or find solutions?
For me I think for 1 it’s the general need for electricity, and specifically power(and water)-hungry data centers. For 2 it’s remote working, and the sharing of ideas, research, sensors.
denspier, @squiblet of course many factors contribute to the divide, especially in the US. But I still hold this as the No. 1 detrimental effect big social media has, putting it before energy consumption and other kinds of waste.
JetlagJen, 1a. High-intensity low-value (actual helpfulness, rather than money) uses like crypto mining and hoarding user data add massively to the materials and energy needed.
1b. Internet-enabling appliances that never get hooked up is a total waste.
1c. Dissemination of disinformation is bad for all causes.
1d. Too-easy, cheap ordering encourages wastefulness.
2a. Collaboration in all fields, both in easy data sharing and avoiding travel.
3b. Sharing of accurate information.
tagesschau, German Meta erwägt offenbar Abo für werbefreies Instagram und Facebook
Mindestens 10 Euro monatlich und dafür keine Werbung: Die Facebook-Mutter Meta erwägt einem Bericht zufolge die Einführung eines Abos zur werbefreien Nutzung von Facebook. Wer weitere Dienste, wie etwa Instagram nutzt, soll dafür zusätzlich zahlen.
beerisgood, German @tagesschau
Lieber 10€ für alle statt nur für verstecken der Werbung, sodass die Leute den Laden endlich verlassen.
karsbehr, German @tagesschau Wie gut, dass #Mastodon das im Gegensatz zu #Meta nicht nötig hat. Dort gibt es keine #Werbung. :awesome:
aral, Elon Musk is launching the presidential campaign of Ron DeSantis, the man working to make The Handmaid’s Tale a reality in the US.
At least the Germans had guns to their heads if they opposed the Nazis. What exactly is your excuse for continuing to support this man and his social network?
dibi58, guess those have jeebus in their head which gets the same result ...
counterintuit, @aral There is no excuse.
sysop408, This is looney. Jack is proposing micropayments because crypto. He’s pitching this as if we haven’t already been down the micropayments path before with traditional currency.
One of the huge problems with micropayments is because it forces the user to make a disproportionately high cognitive effort for the value being exchanged. It’s untenable to keep expending $10 of effort in order to exchange $.10 of value.
ipg, so on #Bluesky, rather than going with the well-documented and defined webfinger protocol, behind the .well-known directory, decided to make their own shit for verifying domains via HTTP.
thus, somebody took the S3 bucket name "xrpc" and now is s3.amazonaws.com on the platform
going great
https://bsky.ipg.gay/profile/s3.amazonaws.com/post/3juud6zh5ur2n
og, So one of many drawbacks being on #Bluesky, there are no DM's, or Hashtags
tym, @og 👀
Nas, @og ah ok... I may consider moving to the AT instance, but wondering if can migrate my followers/followings too 🤔
pallenberg, Lebe nicht in der EU, zahle dort keine Steuern, habe auch kein deutsches Appstore Konto....
Aber laut #Meta bin ich halt in #Deutschland verwurzelt.... Mein Account auf #threads ist nicht mehr nutzbar. Laeuft 🤣
bookstardust, @pallenberg aber kannst du nicht mit einer anderen Emailadresse ein neues Konto anlegen? Es wäre ja eh besser das IG und Threads Konto zu trennen.
pallenberg, @bookstardust dann fehlt mir halt mein Netzwerk. Aber Facebook und Insta hatte ich ja angemeldet als ich schon gar nicht mehr in Europe lebte
J12t, From recent conversations, it appears the faction who wants to block #meta #threads from the get-go is much more outspoken, but also much smaller than the faction who does not (at least not from the get-go).
I don't have any numbers, and my sample size is too small to have any predictive value, but I thought to post about this, in case somebody else has corroborating anecdotes.
vmstan,
Melpomene, @J12t I'm not against commercial instances per se, but I'm against Meta specifically because of their history as a bad actor. Initially I was on the fence, but I've shifted after listening to the arguments.
Having said that, the number of people who legitimately don't care / are okay with it is likely much higher than those opposed.
WhyNotZoidberg, Without looking up names on the 'net, how many old search engines do you remember using back in the day?
I start:
Alta Vista
Ask
Ask Jeeves
Searchbot
Yahoo Search
djsaunders03, @WhyNotZoidberg I remember using Ask.com and Yahoo for search at one point back in the day.
domingo, astalavista.box.sk 🫣
BeAware, So, it seems that mastodon.social is finding out, after fucking around :kek:
People are complaining about their dwindling #Follow count after mass defederation. Probably due to the frivolous handling of user content/data by federating with #meta.
This is why #Mastodon is on the decline unfortunately. Why would people use a service that causes their follower count to drop massively due to one #MastoAdmin selfishness?
@Mastodon Isn't this the reason you exist? 🙄
jay, @FinchHaven @BeAware @Mastodon It's also very clearly NOT in decline at all.
ramsey,
liztai, In 2023 I read 15 books.
My usual rate: 60-100.
I think I've lost the ability to read anything longer than a pithy essay on Substack 😭
I read essays, blog posts, articles, #SocialMedia posts.
But, but ... I feel that I'm losing something with this.
It disturbs me that I can't even focus long enough to complete a chapter. And that all that social media blog content was affecting my mood somehow.
Am I blathering?
How do I regain my reading abilities? 😅
ajlewis2, Ellen, neuroplasticity sounds fascinating to me, too. Do you have a suggestion from something you've read? I'm interested.
liztai, @ajlewis2 @EllenInEdmonton I read the Brain that Changes Itself. It's pretty good 😊
NatureMC, (edited ) 🧵 1/3 Was an #SocialMedia toll ist: Ich kann Dummbratzen, Schandmaulende und Müll ratzfatz blockieren. Was wir heute im Museumsdienst erlebten, mussten wir mit professionellem Lächeln und einem inneren Stinkefinger quittieren.
Es ist unfassbar, wie fies ein gewisser narzisstischer Menschenschlag sein kann. Ich wundere mich nicht, dass sich viele dem ehrenamtlich nicht aussetzen wollen.
Unsere Profistickerin, über 40 Jahre im Metier, muss sich
Nike_Leonhard, German @NatureMC @CorinnaVahrenk1
Bei "Schmiermittel für die Haut" kann ich Hühnerfett empfehlen. Ich habe damit Creme nach einem Rezept aus der Trotula "nachgebaut" und sie hat nicht nur unerwartet gut gerochen, sondern die Haut auch wunderbar zart gemacht.
Leider ließ sich nichts davon gut für die Darstellung übernehmen. Die Besucher haben sich schon bei der Erwähnung "Hühnerfett" gegruselt und sich darin bestätigt gesehen, dass das Mittelalter wirklich eine barbarische Epoche war.
NatureMC, German @Nike_Leonhard Glaub ich sofort. Geflügelfett war in unserer Region teurer und vor allem wurde es für Delikatessen verwendet, nicht zum Schmieren. 😉 Gänsefett - ein Must im Choucroute. (Ich bin übrigens froh, dass ich nicht in der Epoche leben muss, die ich im Museum zeige, und die liegt noch gar nicht sooo lange zurück).