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noellemitchell, (edited )
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

"... the website loads in a special browser built into the app, rather than your phone’s default browser. In 2022, privacy researcher Felix Krause found that Meta injects special “keylogging” JavaScript onto the website you’re visiting that allows the company to monitor everything you type and tap on, including passwords. Other apps including TikTok do the same thing."

What the hell?? This is so creepy.

https://gizmodo.com/meet-link-history-facebook-s-new-way-to-track-the-we-1851134018

jikodesu,
@jikodesu@mastodon.social avatar

@noellemitchell

I don't have Facebook, Instagram nor WhatsApp on my phone. I've also enabled DuckDuckGo App Tracking Protection. Does that mean I'm safe from Meta's "Link History" and Metapixel tracking?

sabret00the,
@sabret00the@mas.to avatar

@noellemitchell @mxtthxw for anyone who is reading this, please make sure you're using with Origin and also if you're up for the learning curve, , though that's not really helpful if you have to log in.

I would also like to suggest trying to migrate over to as an replacement and as a replacement. It took me years to start using my account, the first step is creating it.

If you build it, they will come!

chartier,
@chartier@toot.cafe avatar
Cryo,

@chartier does anyone remember the downfall of IRC because EFnet let AOL connect? Same.

realhackhistory,
@realhackhistory@chaos.social avatar
taylorlorenz,
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social avatar

IG/Meta has been inserting the word "terrorist" into the bios of users that included the words Palestinian" and “alhamdulillah” (which means praise to Allah, or God) https://www.404media.co/instagram-palestinian-arabic-bio-translation/

kentoseth,

@taylorlorenz

I wouldn't want to ascribe maliciousness where incompetence could be the more likely outcome but this would only translate like this under 2 conditions:

  • a constantly learning/re-learning translation model
  • editorially

The former seems unusual because most words don't change in translation based on current events ... unless Meta is of the opinion that what words mean is based on their users opinions.

I also tested this phrase on a few LLMs & none of them translated to that.

tikhonov_a,
@tikhonov_a@mastodon.social avatar

@taylorlorenz Lost in machine translation

aral, (edited )
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Facebook “gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages.”

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/netflix-ad-spend-led-to-facebook-dm-access-end-of-facebook-streaming-biz-lawsuit/

But, yes, please, do federate with them mastodon.social. Because senpai noticed you.

LukefromDC,

@aral They cannot see me at all except by manually navigating to this site. I have threads blocked, and so does this entire server

madargon,
@madargon@is-a.cat avatar

@SpookieRobieTheCat @aral I am surprised how their apps aren't banned in EU. Their every decision is violating users' rights. And when they are legally forced to change, they always do it in the most malicious compliance way possible.

GottaLaff,
@GottaLaff@mastodon.social avatar

A leading psychologist who advises on suicide prevention and self-harm has quit her role, accusing the tech giant of “turning a blind eye” to harmful content on , repeatedly ignoring expert advice and prioritising profit over lives.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/16/instagram-meta-lotte-rubaek-adviser-quits-failure-to-remove-self-harm-content-?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

DEDGirl,
@DEDGirl@mastodon.world avatar

@GottaLaff My teen is always telling me I need to reinstall it. It’s how she & her friends communicate. 🤦‍♀️ But I just cannot bear it. It is so obviously promoting hate & chaos. I followed a lot of disability/medical accounts. Almost every time I would post a positive comment of support, it would immediately get flagged as spam & removed. I would send review requests & feedback comments, but they were never looked at. The racist, nazi, violent threats were okay though. 🤢 nope!

GottaLaff,
@GottaLaff@mastodon.social avatar

@DEDGirl Ugh. I only have an account so I can use Threads. I need to be there at least for now.

I detest all things Meta. I deleted my FB account years ago.

J12t,
@J12t@social.coop avatar

Some notes on the Meta/Threads "Interoperating in the Fediverse Data Dialogue" meeting last week.

https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/

jan,
@jan@toot.io avatar

@J12t Interesting read thanks. More transparent comm would help to understand their roadmap and next steps

KevinMarks,
@KevinMarks@xoxo.zone avatar
rwg,
@rwg@aoir.social avatar

"Meta Threads has begun federating" is an anagram for "user meat feeding the beast"

rwg,
@rwg@aoir.social avatar

@LukefromDC You want to block it yourself, or do you want your admin to block it?

To block it yourself, you'd have to search for an account on threads, and then click on block domain:

https://aoir.social/@vurpo@mastodon.coffee/111581188620213312

But before you do, check with kolektiva's admin. Maybe your instance has already blocked them.

LukefromDC,

Not seeing any threads.net accounts save as being inside names of twitter accounts copied using bird.makeup, so hopefully Kolektiva has already handled this. Will keep an eye on this

ton,

Behavioural targeting by is declared illegal, and Meta must cease doing so within 2 weeks. Thank you to the Norwegian DPA for requesting the 's binding decision, and to people like Max Schrems at @noybeu for kicking this process off in 2018. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2023/11/eu-bans-metas-behavioral-targeting-without-freely-given-consent/

mialikescoffee,

The discourse in the last few days regarding #Meta and #Threads gives the impression that the entire Fediverse is already blocking Threads. I wanted to take a look at the numbers and they speak a different language. The data source for my calculation is https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v=2.

Measured by user count, 76 % of all users are federated with Threads. Remaining instances with 24 % of users either block Threads or are limited (e.g. infosec.exchange).

73ms,

@mialikescoffee Do you know what accounts for the difference in your findings vs. what @folkerschamel reported here: https://mastodon.social/@folkerschamel/111578560621666468

CynAq,

@mialikescoffee that just means a few very large instances are federating with threads and a large number of smaller instances are defederating or limited.

In other words, it’s a representation of the real world where a large majority of people just follow trends set by people of influence and are content with just belonging, and many different minority groups are trying to loosely hang together to form a defense against their complete eradication by the enormous majority’s inertia.

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar
Dalipas, French
@Dalipas@piaille.fr avatar

"𝑱𝒂𝒎𝒂𝒊𝒔 𝒅𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒍’𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒊𝒓𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒔 𝒓𝒆́𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒖𝒙 𝒔𝒐𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒖𝒙, 𝒖𝒏 𝒓𝒆́𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒖 𝒔𝒐𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒏’𝒂 𝒂𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒆́ 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒅𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒏𝒏𝒆́𝒆𝒔 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒔."

"Vous allez voir vos données personnelles aspirées et 𝐣𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐥’𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐬 𝐫𝐞́𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐮𝐱 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐮𝐱, 𝐮𝐧 𝐫𝐞́𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐮 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐧’𝐚 𝐚𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐞́ 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐝𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞́𝐞𝐬 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐞𝐭 𝐧𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐚 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐫𝐨𝐢𝐬𝐞́𝐞𝐬 avec les autres données personnelles des autres réseaux sociaux de qu’avec aujourd’hui", explique toujours Xavier Degraux."

Mais à quoi d'autre pouvait-on s'attendre ?

https://www.rtbf.be/article/threads-le-reseau-social-qui-siphonne-le-plus-vos-donnees-est-disponible-en-europe-11301251

sebsauvage,
@sebsauvage@framapiaf.org avatar

@Dalipas
J'en profite pour re-poster ça :

nitot,
@nitot@framapiaf.org avatar

@sebsauvage @Dalipas @nitot on pourrait avoir une version ou la dame en bas est remplacée par un emoji 🤮?

greenaspen,
J12t,
@J12t@social.coop avatar

I'm going to go visit in San Francisco tomorrow for their "Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse Data Dialogue". Not exactly sure what to expect, or who else is participating, but I figure I can listen and learn and make up my mind afterwards.

They say it's Chatham House rules, meaning I can post this and whatever else interesting transpires. No NDA involved.

Regardless where you stand on the meta-and-the-fediverse question, I think having more info is better.

andypiper,
@andypiper@macaw.social avatar

@renchap @evan @supergrobi @J12t I also mentioned (on Threads) that I’d love to talk with them - in response to a post they made about their potential API - saw lots of engagement on the post, but no follow-up despite providing my direct contact details.

J12t,
@J12t@social.coop avatar

@andypiper @renchap @evan any chance you have too 3 bullet items on the top of your mind what should happen between mastodon and threads, and why. To use as talking points tomorrow if the chance arises.

noybeu,
@noybeu@mastodon.social avatar

⚖ We have published our first statement on the AG Opinion in C-446/21 on / - Meta must limit the use of personal data for advertisment:

👇

https://noyb.eu/en/ag-cjeu-facebook-must-minimize-personal-data-ads-eu

downey,
@downey@floss.social avatar

☣️ :facebook: Posted today: Video overview of massive moderation failure across all networks filled with criminal activity and abuse.

Yet somehow countless folks still think we need to "give them the benefit of the doubt" and "wait and see".

We have seen more than enough abuse to exclude them. For nearly two decades.

📺 Watch "Facebook is a Cesspool of Fraud, Fake Accounts, Scams and Worse":

https://invidious.slipfox.xyz/watch?v=jk7crtzDl_E&local=true

18+ toolbear,
@toolbear@union.place avatar

@downey
That said, I don't see how it isn't one of these:

  • goes badly, as feared and warned by OP and others and myself

  • doesn't go badly, because Fedi modmin teams end up doing Facebook's moderation work for them

dusnm,
@dusnm@fosstodon.org avatar

@downey I think a lot of us non-admins just want to enjoy the ability to communicate with our friends on Threads. ActivityPub can be used by anyone. It's an open protocol, yet somehow a lot of people seek to make it open for everyone, just not for the people we don't agree with.

JosephMenn,

Link to a free version of our exclusive story on propaganda scholar Joan Donovan’s whistleblower complaint accusing Harvard of firing her as it chased huge grants from Meta. (You do have to enter an email address to read it.) https://wapo.st/3Nb5tm8

ravirockks,

@JosephMenn Nonsense. Big Tech are DEI/social licence/CSR/sliced bread/beer and skittles/warmth, fuzziness incarnate.

rwg,
@rwg@aoir.social avatar

Lots of folks have comments on 's integrating , so I thought I'd join the fun.

Latest post: "Thoughts on Threads, or Is Mark Zuckerberg Jesus?"

https://fossacademic.tech/2023/12/16/ThoughtsThreads.html

[replies to this post will appear as comments on the blog, unless you set privacy to followers only or DM. CWs will work]

ArtBear,

@rwg
3) Account choice servers
The overlooked 3rd grouping that believe agency should not be taken away & decided centrally by sys admins yet. Letting users decide for themselves with block mute tools can certainly be seen as a very noncentralised way to respond.

There are clever technical shadings also like limiting threads.net rather than defederating it.

Free choice.
Freedom of association.
It's understandable that some servers want to pause before centrally removing choice in this case.

ArtBear,

@rwg
All 3 groupings are ok & healthy & going to exist regardless of any discussion.

This is right, this is the Fediverse way that embraces diversity.

It's also totally fine to have multiple accounts for different purposes.

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/21/meta-facebook-instagram-pro-palestine-censorship-human-rights-watch-report "Rights group says and routinely engage in ‘six key patterns of undue censorship’ of content supporting Palestine"

tiger_lily420,
@tiger_lily420@urusai.social avatar

@glynmoody Those poor Palestine kids….

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar
matiu_bidule, French
@matiu_bidule@mamot.fr avatar





Donc le gars qui veut vous convaincre que vous devez venir sur son nouveau réseau social Threads, explique tranquillou que pour lui les negationistes et autres propagateurs de fake news ou de propagande nazi et antisémite ne seront pas interdits sur son truc, parce que "ils ne se trompent pas intentionnellement "

🤔🤯

Ça c'est sûr ça donne envie d'y aller, hein...
🤡

Deuchnord,
@Deuchnord@mamot.fr avatar

@matiu_bidule coucou, tu peux partager le lien vers l’article s’il te plaît ? ^^

Khrys,
@Khrys@mamot.fr avatar
josh,

Thanks to all the people tooting about tonight.

Love to have a decent second screen experience for live events on an open protocol like ActivityPub!

KimPerales,
@KimPerales@toad.social avatar

"TikTok? Last year after FB worked years to keep it sealed, a court unsealed its secret app audit. It showed 86,961 developers in CHINA HAD ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR PERSONAL DATA…yet crickets. This is the same app audit Zuckerberg promised Congress after concerns American’s personal data had been readily mined in RU. Throw in IR, NK, you name it. Press didn’t dig in. A good source told me DOJ & Congress hadn’t ever even seen this forensic audit."
-J Kint


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.1100.6.pdf

jdp23,

Indeed. Although, most of "this place" has quote boosts, and has for a while, it's only Mastodon that doesn't. But hey now that has implemented quote boosts (including supporting Misskey's implementation) maybe that'll finally lead to progress?

For more on the background -- and racism -- of Mastodon's reluctance to support quote boosts, check out Black Twitter, quoting, and white views of toxicity on Mastodon

RE: https://union.place/users/inquiline/statuses/112158339477272707

sangster,
@sangster@macaw.social avatar

@jdp23 @inquiline for what it’s worth: I was on the team that launched QTs at Twitter and I’ve always thought we made a mistake with that feature, to the point where I felt real guilt. The abuse it introduced on the platform was absolutely awful, especially because of how easy it made targeting people with deep native support for linking to tweets.

That linked post is probably the first thing I’ve read in years that made me open my mind to the good stuff, too.

jdp23,

@sangster Glad it had that effect! QT's are indeed a two-edged sword but if it makes you feel better, there's research that replies and hashtags were much bigger vectors of incivility and abuse on Twitter. @hildabast has links to it (along with a lot of other work on QTs) in https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2023/01/12/quote-tweeting-over-30-studies-dispel-some-myths/

@inquiline

LALegault,
@LALegault@newsie.social avatar

A woman from Oklahoma was posting pro-Palestinian posts on Facebook and Zuckerberg handed her posts over to the FBI, banned all her accounts, and the FBI visited her at her home. The lengths the U.S. government will go to should worry everyone:

Al Jazeera reports on FBI officers visiting a woman’s home, video is mostly the agents (3) outside of her home and interview footage with the woman.

aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

@LALegault @Jgmeadows These are our new Mastodon friends, Meta/Facebook/Threads, right?

TheSwiv,
@TheSwiv@hear-me.social avatar

“Providing this data as input for Lavender undermines their claim that #WhatsApp is a private messaging app,” he wrote. “It is beyond obscene and makes #Meta complicit in Israel’s killings of ‘pre-crime’ targets and their families, in violation of international humanitarian law and Meta’s publicly stated commitment to human rights.

#gaza #warcrimes

https://truthout.org/articles/report-indicates-israel-uses-whatsapp-data-in-targeted-killings-of-palestinians/

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

"Apparently, #Meta deems climate change too controversial for discussion on their platforms." - https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/kansas-reflector-meta-facebook-column-censored and this, good people, is why everything is going to hell in a handbasket... #zuckerberg

jchaven,
@jchaven@social.sdf.org avatar

@glynmoody

They choose to stay in bed with these organizations...

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

@jchaven sorry, who is "they"?

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